Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Heh, good luck...you have no idea how much the Chinese are hated in South Korea and Japan. The Chinese also detest the Japanese with a passion because of WW2. I mean holy crap, they had to flood the Yangtze River to stop the Japs from invading and it killed 30,000,000+ people in the worst disaster caused by humans in history. Of course all you're taught about is the Holocaust, but the Chinese received a similar fate and even worse in many regards. Every bad guy on Chinese media is Japanese these days.

The thing with china is, this could change overnight if CCP decides that it's better to focus the people 's animosity towards the west vs Japan. People who believe otherwise are underestimating the ability of the CCP to manipulate public sentiment.

Americans are relatively straightforward people. We say what we mean and we mean what we say. Other cultures, including chinese people, are accustomed to saying one thing publicly and meaning another, to saying one thing while believing something else. "Public sentiment" isn't what is in people's hearts and minds.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Heh, good luck...you have no idea how much the Chinese are hated in South Korea and Japan. The Chinese also detest the Japanese with a passion because of WW2. I mean holy crap, they had to flood the Yangtze River to stop the Japs from invading and it killed 30,000,000+ people in the worst disaster caused by humans in history. Of course all you're taught about is the Holocaust, but the Chinese received a similar fate and even worse in many regards. Every bad guy on Chinese media is Japanese these days.

The thing with china is, this could change overnight if CCP decides that it's better to focus the people 's animosity towards the west vs Japan. People who believe otherwise are underestimating the ability of the CCP to manipulate public sentiment.

Yeah no. After the things that Japan did, Chinese people won't forgive them, whether they are friends or enemies on tv shows.

And that animosity applies between Japan and Korea and Korea and China. They aren't going to come together for the common good. At least not now.

Anonymous wrote:Heh, good luck...you have no idea how much the Chinese are hated in South Korea and Japan. The Chinese also detest the Japanese with a passion because of WW2. I mean holy crap, they had to flood the Yangtze River to stop the Japs from invading and it killed 30,000,000+ people in the worst disaster caused by humans in history. Of course all you're taught about is the Holocaust, but the Chinese received a similar fate and even worse in many regards. Every bad guy on Chinese media is Japanese these days.

The thing with china is, this could change overnight if CCP decides that it's better to focus the people 's animosity towards the west vs Japan. People who believe otherwise are underestimating the ability of the CCP to manipulate public sentiment.

Anonymous wrote:Japan and South Korea have done pretty well being aligned with the West.

They don’t want all the TQ+ stuffed down their throats big surprise

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Heh, good luck...you have no idea how much the Chinese are hated in South Korea and Japan. The Chinese also detest the Japanese with a passion because of WW2. I mean holy crap, they had to flood the Yangtze River to stop the Japs from invading and it killed 30,000,000+ people in the worst disaster caused by humans in history. Of course all you're taught about is the Holocaust, but the Chinese received a similar fate and even worse in many regards. Every bad guy on Chinese media is Japanese these days.

The world has changed a ton in the last 3 years. I wouldn't count on old enmities to hold forever.

I think you're not paying attention to Asian social media ove the last 3 years. South Koreans really hate Chinese.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Heh, good luck...you have no idea how much the Chinese are hated in South Korea and Japan. The Chinese also detest the Japanese with a passion because of WW2. I mean holy crap, they had to flood the Yangtze River to stop the Japs from invading and it killed 30,000,000+ people in the worst disaster caused by humans in history. Of course all you're taught about is the Holocaust, but the Chinese received a similar fate and even worse in many regards. Every bad guy on Chinese media is Japanese these days.

The world has changed a ton in the last 3 years. I wouldn't count on old enmities to hold forever.

DP. No, that PP is right. This is just impossible. But some Westerners will feel threatened, which is the point.

It was only in 1940 that Japan launched the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity sphere, promoting Asia for Asiatics. A year later it attacked the United States. I do not think it is currently in Japan's interest to join an alliance with China. But the sentiment of Asian independence from the West is not without historical foundation.

This is human nature and has been normal human behavior for thousands of years; it will continue to be normal human behavior a thousand years after the collapse and disappearance of our current civilization.

In our arrogance, we imagine ourselves as some sort of "New Man" but we are delusional.

Anonymous wrote:Heh, good luck...you have no idea how much the Chinese are hated in South Korea and Japan. The Chinese also detest the Japanese with a passion because of WW2. I mean holy crap, they had to flood the Yangtze River to stop the Japs from invading and it killed 30,000,000+ people in the worst disaster caused by humans in history. Of course all you're taught about is the Holocaust, but the Chinese received a similar fate and even worse in many regards. Every bad guy on Chinese media is Japanese these days.

Um, I think your Yangtze river deaths are off by a factor of 1,000.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Heh, good luck...you have no idea how much the Chinese are hated in South Korea and Japan. The Chinese also detest the Japanese with a passion because of WW2. I mean holy crap, they had to flood the Yangtze River to stop the Japs from invading and it killed 30,000,000+ people in the worst disaster caused by humans in history. Of course all you're taught about is the Holocaust, but the Chinese received a similar fate and even worse in many regards. Every bad guy on Chinese media is Japanese these days.

The world has changed a ton in the last 3 years. I wouldn't count on old enmities to hold forever.

DP. No, that PP is right. This is just impossible. But some Westerners will feel threatened, which is the point.

Anonymous wrote:China is one of the most racist places around.

This is Chinese Trumpism.

Anonymous wrote:Heh, good luck...you have no idea how much the Chinese are hated in South Korea and Japan. The Chinese also detest the Japanese with a passion because of WW2. I mean holy crap, they had to flood the Yangtze River to stop the Japs from invading and it killed 30,000,000+ people in the worst disaster caused by humans in history. Of course all you're taught about is the Holocaust, but the Chinese received a similar fate and even worse in many regards. Every bad guy on Chinese media is Japanese these days.

The world has changed a ton in the last 3 years. I wouldn't count on old enmities to hold forever.

Japan and South Korea have done pretty well being aligned with the West.

Heh, good luck...you have no idea how much the Chinese are hated in South Korea and Japan. The Chinese also detest the Japanese with a passion because of WW2. I mean holy crap, they had to flood the Yangtze River to stop the Japs from invading and it killed 30,000,000+ people in the worst disaster caused by humans in history. Of course all you're taught about is the Holocaust, but the Chinese received a similar fate and even worse in many regards. Every bad guy on Chinese media is Japanese these days.

China is one of the most racist places around.

To push the greater East Asia Co-prosperity sphere part deux.......

“No matter how blonde you dye your hair, how sharp you shape your nose, you can never become a European or American, you can never become a Westerner,” Wang said. “We must know where our roots lie.”

Wang called for Japan and South Korea to work together with China to “prosper together, revitalize East Asia, revitalize Asia and benefit the world.”

Wang was speaking on the sidelines of the International Forum for Trilateral Cooperation, an annual event organized by Beijing, Tokyo and Seoul since 2011.

On Monday, Wang also addressed the forum’s opening ceremony in an effort to “send a clear signal” of the potential for the three neighbors’ regrouping, the Chinese Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

In his opening remarks, Wang called for Japan and South Korea to “promote inclusive Asian values, foster a sense of strategic autonomy, maintain regional unity and stability, resist the return of the Cold War mentality and be free of the coercion of bullying and hegemony,” the statement said.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/04/china/wang-yi-china-japan-south-korea-intl-hnk/index.html