Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 11:54     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
Anonymous wrote:I think it's false to assume that celeb women are immune from fertility issues. Think about your small friend group and how many of them have issues. I know in my close group of 6 friends, 4 had struggles getting pregnant.

My niece was married last year and is constantly getting the "when are you gonna have a kid???" comments at family functions. Little do most know that she has a severe case of endometriosis, a bicornuate uterus, & lost an ovary a few years ago, so her chances of conception are very low. These are not things she wishes to share with random family members who aren't close to her or who she just sees casually. So she just smiles and says "soon, hopefully!" but she and her husband have been trying. They're currently saving up for fertility treatments, too.

Everyone would view her as very healthy from her outward appearance. If she used a surrogate or adopted, people would surely think "oh, she didn't want to ruin her cute figure" or derail her career or something. That's a terrible mindset to have and very ableist.


Much love to your niece and I wish her good fortune on that journey.

However, many if the celebs who have used surrogates have done so only after having kids on their own. Even with a history of infertility issues, or concerns about age, I do find it troubling fir someone who already has kids to rent a woman’s uterus to have more. That is VERY different than someone who has no kids and just wants to be a parent choosing surrogacy because it’s their only shot to have biological children. At least in my mind.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 11:47     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
I think it's false to assume that celeb women are immune from fertility issues. Think about your small friend group and how many of them have issues. I know in my close group of 6 friends, 4 had struggles getting pregnant.

My niece was married last year and is constantly getting the "when are you gonna have a kid???" comments at family functions. Little do most know that she has a severe case of endometriosis, a bicornuate uterus, & lost an ovary a few years ago, so her chances of conception are very low. These are not things she wishes to share with random family members who aren't close to her or who she just sees casually. So she just smiles and says "soon, hopefully!" but she and her husband have been trying. They're currently saving up for fertility treatments, too.

Everyone would view her as very healthy from her outward appearance. If she used a surrogate or adopted, people would surely think "oh, she didn't want to ruin her cute figure" or derail her career or something. That's a terrible mindset to have and very ableist.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 11:34     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
Anonymous wrote:I wondered how Hilaria and Alec Baldwin arranged for a surrogate during covid and DURING her own pregnancy. to have baby #6. why on earth? so she can gender select? and no one has a problem that her son was the youngest for only 5 months and then had to share attention with a brand new baby?

it isn't like twins that are aware of one another in the womb and "know" each other.

I don't know how Hilaria did the egg retrieval, was cleared for a surrogate, and expedited the process during a pandemic AND clearly not having fertility problems given she had 5 healthy children.

we are living in the early stages of Gilead.

The “how” is easy: money and access. As to the “why,” god only knows.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 11:22     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
I wondered how Hilaria and Alec Baldwin arranged for a surrogate during covid and DURING her own pregnancy. to have baby #6. why on earth? so she can gender select? and no one has a problem that her son was the youngest for only 5 months and then had to share attention with a brand new baby?

it isn't like twins that are aware of one another in the womb and "know" each other.

I don't know how Hilaria did the egg retrieval, was cleared for a surrogate, and expedited the process during a pandemic AND clearly not having fertility problems given she had 5 healthy children.

we are living in the early stages of Gilead.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 23:16     Subject: Re:Are rich & famous people using surrogates…

OP, are you the same OP who posted on this entertainment forum recently about celebrity women (starting specifically with Dakota Johnson)"wasting their fertility" by not popping out babies as you think they should? That OP was also strangely obsessed with other women's private choices, just because those women were actresses or celebrities. Was that you, too? Both of you, or just you if there's only one person here, might consider why you're so focused on other people's private lives and the subject of pregnancy and fertility to this level of detail. Maybe you're projecting problems from your own life.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 22:25     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
I think a lot of celebs have legitimate difficulty getting pregnant. I think they have a lot of undiagnosed eating disorders and, even if you’ve recovered, it can still negatively impact your future fertility if you had an ED and were underweight in the past. Prior or current drug use is probably a factor as well for both men and women. And if you’re trying to get pregnant for the first time in your late 30s+, they likely find it’s more difficult than they had anticipated and maybe being pregnant would be fine with their career but going through fertility treatments would not.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 19:26     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
MYOB
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 17:34     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
Anonymous wrote:…because (1) they can’t get pregnant or (2) for the convenience factor (ie, do not want to slow down career or “ruin” their body)?

Personally, I find it very disturbing if an otherwise healthy & fertile woman who can physically have a baby without issue pays someone else to carry her fertilized egg. Renting other people’s bodies in the absence of a compelling health issue or physical inability to carry to term seems….highly problematic. Almost akin to buying someone’s organ for a transplant.

It feels like we are seeing a wave of surrogacy right now in Hollywood that is disproportionate to their actual numbers. Like, people are doing it because they can and there’s no real pushback.

The only people I know IRL using surrogates are gay male couples. And that’s a compelling reason, imho, because they can’t otherwise have a child.

So is the wave of surrogacy among the rich and famous due to need or convenience?


Gay men can adopt.

I know two gay couples who fostered to adopt.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 17:33     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
^^so it would not derail her career
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 17:32     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
Jamie Chung admitting using a surrogate would derail her career.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 17:29     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
Anonymous wrote:…because (1) they can’t get pregnant or (2) for the convenience factor (ie, do not want to slow down career or “ruin” their body)?

Personally, I find it very disturbing if an otherwise healthy & fertile woman who can physically have a baby without issue pays someone else to carry her fertilized egg. Renting other people’s bodies in the absence of a compelling health issue or physical inability to carry to term seems….highly problematic. Almost akin to buying someone’s organ for a transplant.

It feels like we are seeing a wave of surrogacy right now in Hollywood that is disproportionate to their actual numbers. Like, people are doing it because they can and there’s no real pushback.

The only people I know IRL using surrogates are gay male couples. And that’s a compelling reason, imho, because they can’t otherwise have a child.

So is the wave of surrogacy among the rich and famous due to need or convenience?


You seriously think the only time surrogacy is ok is to serve the desired of men?

Lol.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 17:28     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
Chrissy Tiegen did it because she was worried she would have another late term loss. Priyanka Chopra did it because she was worried she was too old to carry to term.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 17:26     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
Anonymous wrote:…because (1) they can’t get pregnant or (2) for the convenience factor (ie, do not want to slow down career or “ruin” their body)?

Personally, I find it very disturbing if an otherwise healthy & fertile woman who can physically have a baby without issue pays someone else to carry her fertilized egg. Renting other people’s bodies in the absence of a compelling health issue or physical inability to carry to term seems….highly problematic. Almost akin to buying someone’s organ for a transplant.

It feels like we are seeing a wave of surrogacy right now in Hollywood that is disproportionate to their actual numbers. Like, people are doing it because they can and there’s no real pushback.

The only people I know IRL using surrogates are gay male couples. And that’s a compelling reason, imho, because they can’t otherwise have a child.

So is the wave of surrogacy among the rich and famous due to need or convenience?


A desire for a baby that can’t be born otherwise does not remove the profoundly ethical issues of surrogacy. You may decide that the desire for the baby outweighs the exploitation, but that doesn’t remove the existence of the exploitation.

And if you are okay with exploitation in that circumstance, it makes no sense to object to it otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 17:20     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
Why does this matter to you now?
How on earth would commercial surrogacy ever be ethical enough to be just out of necessity?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 17:12     Subject: Are rich & famous people using surrogates…
…because (1) they can’t get pregnant or (2) for the convenience factor (ie, do not want to slow down career or “ruin” their body)?

Personally, I find it very disturbing if an otherwise healthy & fertile woman who can physically have a baby without issue pays someone else to carry her fertilized egg. Renting other people’s bodies in the absence of a compelling health issue or physical inability to carry to term seems….highly problematic. Almost akin to buying someone’s organ for a transplant.

It feels like we are seeing a wave of surrogacy right now in Hollywood that is disproportionate to their actual numbers. Like, people are doing it because they can and there’s no real pushback.

The only people I know IRL using surrogates are gay male couples. And that’s a compelling reason, imho, because they can’t otherwise have a child.

So is the wave of surrogacy among the rich and famous due to need or convenience?