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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why Americans can’t comprehend that absolutely no one besides America enjoys this current reality in which America dominates everything. Even Western Europe merely tolerates America’s domineering existence.

The developing nations of the world/global south/whatever ridiculous term you want to use to describe most of the world will support pretty much anyone who seems to stand a chance of toppling this America-led hegemony. It used to be that this support was quiet, but as America’s standing has slipped, this support has become open.

It’s not that India loves Russia. It’s that India hates America, just as Americans would hate India if India had a history and present of treating America the way that America treats everyone.

Sure but they'd enjoy it even less if Russia and/or China dominated everything. Also, for as much as people wanna trashtalk America, I'm sure India wouldn't be very happy if suddenly the US became isolationist, severed all diplomatic and economic ties, stopped commerce and everything else with India.

Funny how you think the alternative to America dominating everything is for another country to dominate everything. Very American mindset. That’s part of why no one likes this country. The fact is that the world is moving towards a multipolar reality and America is doing its best to fight against that because this country only understands domination.

It’s also funny that you think Russia or India’s influence would be more malignant.

Do you know which modern country has invaded other countries the most?

Do you know which country is responsible for the deaths of millions of civilians across the Middle East in just the past 20 years?

Do you know which country was responsible for the deaths of millions of civilians in Southeast Asia before its Middle East misadventures?

Has it ever occur to you to turn the lens around and try to understand what the rest of the world sees when they look at America?

India has no scruples. They are going to do what is in their economic self-interest each and every time, which is why they’ll never be much of an ally.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why Americans can’t comprehend that absolutely no one besides America enjoys this current reality in which America dominates everything. Even Western Europe merely tolerates America’s domineering existence.

The developing nations of the world/global south/whatever ridiculous term you want to use to describe most of the world will support pretty much anyone who seems to stand a chance of toppling this America-led hegemony. It used to be that this support was quiet, but as America’s standing has slipped, this support has become open.

It’s not that India loves Russia. It’s that India hates America, just as Americans would hate India if India had a history and present of treating America the way that America treats everyone.

Sure but they'd enjoy it even less if Russia and/or China dominated everything. Also, for as much as people wanna trashtalk America, I'm sure India wouldn't be very happy if suddenly the US became isolationist, severed all diplomatic and economic ties, stopped commerce and everything else with India.

There is a looooooooooot of daylight between becoming "isolationist, severed all diplomatic and economic ties, stopped commerce and everything else with India" and "forcing other countries to follow its foreign policy decisions, hate its enemies and support its friends, despite what these countries' own interests might be."

It’s very disappointing, because Indian Americans are the second-most Democratic registered group after Black Americans. Something like 80% of Indian Americans are Dems.

Why is India turning their backs on us?

US has a lot of leverage over India.

India’s main export is its own children. Of the US stopped all Indian HXXXBs and OXTs Modi would howl and cave

Democrats don’t have the balls and are too entangled with big tech

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why Americans can’t comprehend that absolutely no one besides America enjoys this current reality in which America dominates everything. Even Western Europe merely tolerates America’s domineering existence.

The developing nations of the world/global south/whatever ridiculous term you want to use to describe most of the world will support pretty much anyone who seems to stand a chance of toppling this America-led hegemony. It used to be that this support was quiet, but as America’s standing has slipped, this support has become open.

It’s not that India loves Russia. It’s that India hates America, just as Americans would hate India if India had a history and present of treating America the way that America treats everyone.

Sure but they'd enjoy it even less if Russia and/or China dominated everything. Also, for as much as people wanna trashtalk America, I'm sure India wouldn't be very happy if suddenly the US became isolationist, severed all diplomatic and economic ties, stopped commerce and everything else with India.

Anonymous wrote:India has a heightened opinion of itself and its place in the world. They believe they will be rewarded for supporting a superpower when they like Russia are simply proud third world countries.

The US has more debt than the rest of the world combined. Fortunately we have resources (oil) and food production.

I don’t know why Americans can’t comprehend that absolutely no one besides America enjoys this current reality in which America dominates everything. Even Western Europe merely tolerates America’s domineering existence.

The developing nations of the world/global south/whatever ridiculous term you want to use to describe most of the world will support pretty much anyone who seems to stand a chance of toppling this America-led hegemony. It used to be that this support was quiet, but as America’s standing has slipped, this support has become open.

It’s not that India loves Russia. It’s that India hates America, just as Americans would hate India if India had a history and present of treating America the way that America treats everyone.

India has a heightened opinion of itself and its place in the world. They believe they will be rewarded for supporting a superpower when they like Russia are simply proud third world countries.

The Russian sanctions using the dollar as a weapon has created and anti-dollar movement. Nobody wants the US to have that power over them. It was a huge mistake and hasn’t even hurt resource rich Russia. The power of commodities and food is fiat paper dollar resistant. But India would be very damaged by such an action.

Anonymous wrote:The US has destroyed its credibility in India with its embrace of Pakistan.

How does that explain Russia then, which has embraced China who invaded Indian territory and killed their soldiers.


India is out for India and does whatever is its own best interests. India will play Russia for cheap a dirt oil to meet its energy needs while playing America like a fiddle to deal with the Chinese. India won’t cooperate with Russia while it is simultaneously part of The Quad with the US, which exists as a counterbalance to China. India Indias. Nothing new here with them playing everyone to their own self interests first.

The US has destroyed its credibility in India with its embrace of Pakistan.

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Anonymous wrote:I just dont get it. Great article in WAPO today

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/20/india-us-relations-modi/

These days, New Delhi similarly refuses to toe the American line on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. India’s import of cheap Russian oil continues to break records. Anyone who wants to see Indian leaders stand up and publicly assail the Kremlin — one of their main suppliers of weaponry and a valuable source of raw materials — is in for a long wait.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/20/modi-cinema-muslim-hatred/

Anurag Kashyap, one of India’s most celebrated filmmakers, told me that producers are being asked to make films to government spec. “Powerful Hindu nationalist groups like the RSS [Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh] are meeting producers and telling them what films are to be made so it can empower the government’s own agenda,” Kashyap said.

A few things. First, India and non-aligned countries in general resent the pressure to toe the Western line. They've had enough and they want to pick their own friends and enemies. They simply do not see this war as anything to do with them - they do not buy the (stupid) narrative that this is some sort of existential battle for good and evil, and that Russia must be stopped or else. Quite correctly, they see that this is not true, and in their eyes this war is a regional conflict of the sort they've seen play out hundreds and thousands of times, without any great powers getting involved.

Secondly, there is a strong and long tradition of affection and respect toward Russia in India. While the British colonization rule destroyed native industries so their own can prosper and worked to turn India all industrial, the USSR provided ample aid to India to build their industrial base and train hundreds of thousands of Indians as engineers etc. at Soviet universities. Most of India's weapons are Russian made.

Most of aspirational culture commodities everywhere are government controlled through voluntary censorship so it's not surprising what the Indian filmmakers say.

Correction: worked to turn India into a purely agricultural society. USSR was the country that helped India industrialize.

Anonymous wrote:I just dont get it. Great article in WAPO today

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/20/india-us-relations-modi/

These days, New Delhi similarly refuses to toe the American line on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. India’s import of cheap Russian oil continues to break records. Anyone who wants to see Indian leaders stand up and publicly assail the Kremlin — one of their main suppliers of weaponry and a valuable source of raw materials — is in for a long wait.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/20/modi-cinema-muslim-hatred/

Anurag Kashyap, one of India’s most celebrated filmmakers, told me that producers are being asked to make films to government spec. “Powerful Hindu nationalist groups like the RSS [Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh] are meeting producers and telling them what films are to be made so it can empower the government’s own agenda,” Kashyap said.

A few things. First, India and non-aligned countries in general resent the pressure to toe the Western line. They've had enough and they want to pick their own friends and enemies. They simply do not see this war as anything to do with them - they do not buy the (stupid) narrative that this is some sort of existential battle for good and evil, and that Russia must be stopped or else. Quite correctly, they see that this is not true, and in their eyes this war is a regional conflict of the sort they've seen play out hundreds and thousands of times, without any great powers getting involved.

Secondly, there is a strong and long tradition of affection and respect toward Russia in India. While the British colonization rule destroyed native industries so their own can prosper and worked to turn India all industrial, the USSR provided ample aid to India to build their industrial base and train hundreds of thousands of Indians as engineers etc. at Soviet universities. Most of India's weapons are Russian made.

Most of aspirational culture commodities everywhere are government controlled through voluntary censorship so it's not surprising what the Indian filmmakers say.

I just dont get it. Great article in WAPO today

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/20/india-us-relations-modi/

These days, New Delhi similarly refuses to toe the American line on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. India’s import of cheap Russian oil continues to break records. Anyone who wants to see Indian leaders stand up and publicly assail the Kremlin — one of their main suppliers of weaponry and a valuable source of raw materials — is in for a long wait.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/20/modi-cinema-muslim-hatred/

Anurag Kashyap, one of India’s most celebrated filmmakers, told me that producers are being asked to make films to government spec. “Powerful Hindu nationalist groups like the RSS [Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh] are meeting producers and telling them what films are to be made so it can empower the government’s own agenda,” Kashyap said.