Anonymous
06/13/2023 19:19
Subject: Re:Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
Teachers are not supposed to discuss GBRSs with parents or even AAP with parents. You put the Teacher in an awkward spot asking the question that you did.
Your child should not be upset that they were not accepted. You explain to your child that there are different classes for different kids that meet their needs and that the school thinks the class that he is going to be in is the best one for him. Your scores show that your kid is stronger in Math then LA and will probably land in Advanced Math.
The comments for the GBRSs are written to send a specific message, FO comments look very different then CO comments. DS had 3 COs and 1 FO, you could see the difference in the comments tones and specificity. The FO was not mean and was in many ways complementary but you could easily see how different the FO comments were from the CO comments. I get that your child had 4FOs so you could not see that but you knew that the FO was not the highest score so quoting those in your appeal letter was not a good decision. Especially since the reviewers were going to see the comments on the GBRS anyway.
Overall I would say that you need to chill out. AAP is not that big a deal. You can apply again next year.
Your child should not be upset that they were not accepted. You explain to your child that there are different classes for different kids that meet their needs and that the school thinks the class that he is going to be in is the best one for him. Your scores show that your kid is stronger in Math then LA and will probably land in Advanced Math.
The comments for the GBRSs are written to send a specific message, FO comments look very different then CO comments. DS had 3 COs and 1 FO, you could see the difference in the comments tones and specificity. The FO was not mean and was in many ways complementary but you could easily see how different the FO comments were from the CO comments. I get that your child had 4FOs so you could not see that but you knew that the FO was not the highest score so quoting those in your appeal letter was not a good decision. Especially since the reviewers were going to see the comments on the GBRS anyway.
Overall I would say that you need to chill out. AAP is not that big a deal. You can apply again next year.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 19:16
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
You sound ridiculous, OP. Leave your kid alone.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 19:14
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Seems like the county gives the highest score to GBRS. Spoke to the teacher and asked what is the line between a FO and CO so that we get it right next time, teacher says DC is a bright kid in class and does not recollect why she gave 4 FO, is she being coy? The kid is heartbroken and I feel helpless. It's an early lesson to her that life is not fair.
Feel helpless because retaking COGAT may not even help, there is no clear direction on how GBRS is accessed, and seems very subjective as per the AART.
Kids creds
NNAT- 132 (98 percentile)
COGAT- 132 (139 in math, did badly in verbal) 98th percentile overall
WISC - 140 (99.5 percentile)- GMU counselor said very nice things about DC in an 1:1 assessment
GBRS- 4 FO
Not in on Appeals
This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen in a while here. I’m truly embarrassed for you, OP. One of two things is true: Either you’re making this up to be melodramatic or you really set your kid up by involving them in this process and making a 7 year old think this process was somehow an indicator of their worth. Either way, it’s ridiculous.
NP and My child wasn’t heartbroken when they didn’t get in (bc we prepared them for that potential outcome and discussed how it’s NBD), however, at our center school, kids talk about this all the time and depending on what their parents are saying, the messaging can be pretty obnoxious.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 19:03
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Seems like the county gives the highest score to GBRS. Spoke to the teacher and asked what is the line between a FO and CO so that we get it right next time, teacher says DC is a bright kid in class and does not recollect why she gave 4 FO, is she being coy? The kid is heartbroken and I feel helpless. It's an early lesson to her that life is not fair.
Feel helpless because retaking COGAT may not even help, there is no clear direction on how GBRS is accessed, and seems very subjective as per the AART.
Kids creds
NNAT- 132 (98 percentile)
COGAT- 132 (139 in math, did badly in verbal) 98th percentile overall
WISC - 140 (99.5 percentile)- GMU counselor said very nice things about DC in an 1:1 assessment
GBRS- 4 FO
Not in on Appeals
Teachers should document their records since the GBRS is so highly weighted; not recalling isn't good enough when it is important to the kid and his family.
Or maybe OP cornered the teacher at dismissal for an impromptu conference and the teacher couldn’t recall her exact thinking from some meeting in January about one of the 25 kids she teaches.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 19:02
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Seems like the county gives the highest score to GBRS. Spoke to the teacher and asked what is the line between a FO and CO so that we get it right next time, teacher says DC is a bright kid in class and does not recollect why she gave 4 FO, is she being coy? The kid is heartbroken and I feel helpless. It's an early lesson to her that life is not fair.
Feel helpless because retaking COGAT may not even help, there is no clear direction on how GBRS is accessed, and seems very subjective as per the AART.
Kids creds
NNAT- 132 (98 percentile)
COGAT- 132 (139 in math, did badly in verbal) 98th percentile overall
WISC - 140 (99.5 percentile)- GMU counselor said very nice things about DC in an 1:1 assessment
GBRS- 4 FO
Not in on Appeals
Or maybe OP cornered the teacher at dismissal for an impromptu conference and the teacher couldn’t recall her exact thinking from some meeting in January about one of the 25 kids she teaches.
Teachers should document their records since the GBRS is so highly weighted; not recalling isn't good enough when it is important to the kid and his family.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 19:00
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
Anonymous wrote:
Seems like the county gives the highest score to GBRS. Spoke to the teacher and asked what is the line between a FO and CO so that we get it right next time, teacher says DC is a bright kid in class and does not recollect why she gave 4 FO, is she being coy? The kid is heartbroken and I feel helpless. It's an early lesson to her that life is not fair.
Feel helpless because retaking COGAT may not even help, there is no clear direction on how GBRS is accessed, and seems very subjective as per the AART.
Kids creds
NNAT- 132 (98 percentile)
COGAT- 132 (139 in math, did badly in verbal) 98th percentile overall
WISC - 140 (99.5 percentile)- GMU counselor said very nice things about DC in an 1:1 assessment
GBRS- 4 FO
Not in on Appeals
This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen in a while here. I’m truly embarrassed for you, OP. One of two things is true: Either you’re making this up to be melodramatic or you really set your kid up by involving them in this process and making a 7 year old think this process was somehow an indicator of their worth. Either way, it’s ridiculous.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 18:55
Subject: Re:Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
Op here :The comments in the GBRS did not help solve the puzzle. The comments were very positive, in facts we used teachers quotes in the appeals cover letter
Anonymous
06/13/2023 18:46
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Seems like the county gives the highest score to GBRS. Spoke to the teacher and asked what is the line between a FO and CO so that we get it right next time, teacher says DC is a bright kid in class and does not recollect why she gave 4 FO, is she being coy? The kid is heartbroken and I feel helpless. It's an early lesson to her that life is not fair.
Feel helpless because retaking COGAT may not even help, there is no clear direction on how GBRS is accessed, and seems very subjective as per the AART.
Kids creds
NNAT- 132 (98 percentile)
COGAT- 132 (139 in math, did badly in verbal) 98th percentile overall
WISC - 140 (99.5 percentile)- GMU counselor said very nice things about DC in an 1:1 assessment
GBRS- 4 FO
Not in on Appeals
Teachers should document their records since the GBRS is so highly weighted; not recalling isn't good enough when it is important to the kid and his family.
The GBRS is documented, it's right there. The comments explain why the teacher gave for each section.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 18:13
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
Anonymous wrote:
Seems like the county gives the highest score to GBRS. Spoke to the teacher and asked what is the line between a FO and CO so that we get it right next time, teacher says DC is a bright kid in class and does not recollect why she gave 4 FO, is she being coy? The kid is heartbroken and I feel helpless. It's an early lesson to her that life is not fair.
Feel helpless because retaking COGAT may not even help, there is no clear direction on how GBRS is accessed, and seems very subjective as per the AART.
Kids creds
NNAT- 132 (98 percentile)
COGAT- 132 (139 in math, did badly in verbal) 98th percentile overall
WISC - 140 (99.5 percentile)- GMU counselor said very nice things about DC in an 1:1 assessment
GBRS- 4 FO
Not in on Appeals
Teachers should document their records since the GBRS is so highly weighted; not recalling isn't good enough when it is important to the kid and his family.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 17:07
Subject: Re:Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
I’m sorry to the OP but I am genuinely curious about the heartbroken part. How do 2nd graders even know about AAP? From older siblings? Peers? Parents? I have one 2nd grader and he doesn’t seem to have a clue about it.
Mostly older siblings and peers. Can’t say more due to anonymity, sorry.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 17:01
Subject: Re:Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
I’m sorry to the OP but I am genuinely curious about the heartbroken part. How do 2nd graders even know about AAP? From older siblings? Peers? Parents? I have one 2nd grader and he doesn’t seem to have a clue about it.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 16:55
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
equity.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 16:42
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
The scores are good but why not do the one time retake before applying again next year. Also be on top of next years teacher. And when you do the initial submission write up talk about the points from the gbrs form on why your child display those characteristics. Sorry we had the same problem last year.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 16:23
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
You don't need to retake any tests. Your DC has good scores. Just apply again next year.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 16:00
Subject: Why does FCPS for giving highest weightage to GBRS and discard all other standardized tests?
Seems like the county gives the highest score to GBRS. Spoke to the teacher and asked what is the line between a FO and CO so that we get it right next time, teacher says DC is a bright kid in class and does not recollect why she gave 4 FO, is she being coy? The kid is heartbroken and I feel helpless. It's an early lesson to her that life is not fair.
Feel helpless because retaking COGAT may not even help, there is no clear direction on how GBRS is accessed, and seems very subjective as per the AART.
Kids creds
NNAT- 132 (98 percentile)
COGAT- 132 (139 in math, did badly in verbal) 98th percentile overall
WISC - 140 (99.5 percentile)- GMU counselor said very nice things about DC in an 1:1 assessment
GBRS- 4 FO
Not in on Appeals