Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 18:56     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those of you in support of these activities and audits, where is the evidence showing it helps? Frankly I find myself so overtly skeptical of this whole new industry that I find myself less inclined to want to help anyone. I miss MLK, Jr.’s message. I am not sure I completely buy into the message that focusing on race is better than trying to move beyond it. Change is slow and we have come a long way. Suddenly it’s not enough and we need all this training. Why? Is it helping? Who is it helping other than these new trainers and auditors?



Just because we’ve come a long way doesn’t mean we’ve reached the goal. And it’s not suddenly not enough, it hasn’t been enough all along. And what’s the measure of a long way? No longer allowing slavery? No longer have separate White’s and Colored bathrooms or separate schools. Make no mistake, there is still dramatic differences to how students of color are treated in classrooms and what they and their parents are informed about in term of opportunities. You not seeing that is actually the point. The racism or problems are not all resolved, folks have just gotten better at hiding it.


These are serious questions, not trolling: Do you have some sort of report or documentation about this? Is it documented at the system level, grade by grade, or even school by school?

I ask only because at Magruder, I don't really see any differences. White student enrollment is about 22%, so perhaps that's why. Perhaps schools where BIPOC kids are minorities are different, but there are not many of those. A school by school analysis would help identify issues that may differ by enrollment.





Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 18:55     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those of you in support of these activities and audits, where is the evidence showing it helps? Frankly I find myself so overtly skeptical of this whole new industry that I find myself less inclined to want to help anyone. I miss MLK, Jr.’s message. I am not sure I completely buy into the message that focusing on race is better than trying to move beyond it. Change is slow and we have come a long way. Suddenly it’s not enough and we need all this training. Why? Is it helping? Who is it helping other than these new trainers and auditors?



Just because we’ve come a long way doesn’t mean we’ve reached the goal. And it’s not suddenly not enough, it hasn’t been enough all along. And what’s the measure of a long way? No longer allowing slavery? No longer have separate White’s and Colored bathrooms or separate schools. Make no mistake, there is still dramatic differences to how students of color are treated in classrooms and what they and their parents are informed about in term of opportunities. You not seeing that is actually the point. The racism or problems are not all resolved, folks have just gotten better at hiding it.


Ugh this person is on the racism treadmill! It doesn’t matter how much progress, we’re still in the same place!!! (If we weren’t race-baiting activists would have to find something else to do and they don’t really have any other skills so…)
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 18:40     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Anonymous wrote:What do these actually accomplish? Are there tangible results? I guess what I find annoying is this isn't a problem specific to MCPS and seems like something that needs to be addressed at the national level. It's like MCPS trying to tackle global warming. Sure, it's a nice sentiment but is hardly going to have a big impact even locally.


Yes, it's just another excuse to siphon funds from education into more ineffective bureaucracy while further neglecting education.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 18:38     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
What do these actually accomplish? Are there tangible results? I guess what I find annoying is this isn't a problem specific to MCPS and seems like something that needs to be addressed at the national level. It's like MCPS trying to tackle global warming. Sure, it's a nice sentiment but is hardly going to have a big impact even locally.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 18:25     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Anonymous wrote:For those of you in support of these activities and audits, where is the evidence showing it helps? Frankly I find myself so overtly skeptical of this whole new industry that I find myself less inclined to want to help anyone. I miss MLK, Jr.’s message. I am not sure I completely buy into the message that focusing on race is better than trying to move beyond it. Change is slow and we have come a long way. Suddenly it’s not enough and we need all this training. Why? Is it helping? Who is it helping other than these new trainers and auditors?



Just because we’ve come a long way doesn’t mean we’ve reached the goal. And it’s not suddenly not enough, it hasn’t been enough all along. And what’s the measure of a long way? No longer allowing slavery? No longer have separate White’s and Colored bathrooms or separate schools. Make no mistake, there is still dramatic differences to how students of color are treated in classrooms and what they and their parents are informed about in term of opportunities. You not seeing that is actually the point. The racism or problems are not all resolved, folks have just gotten better at hiding it.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 17:42     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Anonymous wrote:For those of you in support of these activities and audits, where is the evidence showing it helps? Frankly I find myself so overtly skeptical of this whole new industry that I find myself less inclined to want to help anyone. I miss MLK, Jr.’s message. I am not sure I completely buy into the message that focusing on race is better than trying to move beyond it. Change is slow and we have come a long way. Suddenly it’s not enough and we need all this training. Why? Is it helping? Who is it helping other than these new trainers and auditors?


Where do you think change comes from? It doesn't happen by itself.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 17:41     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those of you in support of these activities and audits, where is the evidence showing it helps? Frankly I find myself so overtly skeptical of this whole new industry that I find myself less inclined to want to help anyone. I miss MLK, Jr.’s message. I am not sure I completely buy into the message that focusing on race is better than trying to move beyond it. Change is slow and we have come a long way. Suddenly it’s not enough and we need all this training. Why? Is it helping? Who is it helping other than these new trainers and auditors?


It is helping the people who do the audits! They are making millions! Taxpayer funded. It doesn’t need to show that it is actually ‘helping’.

The companies who perform these audits are making a ton of money.



"MCPS paid $454,680 to MAEC to conduct the Antiracist System Audit through a board-approved expenditure. Suggested citation: Mid-Atlantic Equity Consortium, Inc."



Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 17:10     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Anonymous wrote:For those of you in support of these activities and audits, where is the evidence showing it helps? Frankly I find myself so overtly skeptical of this whole new industry that I find myself less inclined to want to help anyone. I miss MLK, Jr.’s message. I am not sure I completely buy into the message that focusing on race is better than trying to move beyond it. Change is slow and we have come a long way. Suddenly it’s not enough and we need all this training. Why? Is it helping? Who is it helping other than these new trainers and auditors?


It is helping the people who do the audits! They are making millions! Taxpayer funded. It doesn’t need to show that it is actually ‘helping’.

The companies who perform these audits are making a ton of money.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 17:08     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Anonymous wrote:Agree with PP. Such a waste of money. We need better education for all in reading and math- that would help everyone. The diversion of funds from these critical areas is a real frustration.


+1 million

Spend the money on more staff, more teachers and a better curriculum. This audit is nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 15:11     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
For those of you in support of these activities and audits, where is the evidence showing it helps? Frankly I find myself so overtly skeptical of this whole new industry that I find myself less inclined to want to help anyone. I miss MLK, Jr.’s message. I am not sure I completely buy into the message that focusing on race is better than trying to move beyond it. Change is slow and we have come a long way. Suddenly it’s not enough and we need all this training. Why? Is it helping? Who is it helping other than these new trainers and auditors?
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 15:05     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Anonymous wrote:Total waste of money. We are in one of the wealthiest and most diverse areas of the world and treat each other well almost without exception. Just another way for people to make money and create a victim mentality.


Speaking of victim mentality
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 15:04     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Anonymous wrote:Total waste of money. We are in one of the wealthiest and most diverse areas of the world and treat each other well almost without exception. Just another way for people to make money and create a victim mentality.


Wow. Step outside of your bubble sometime.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 14:59     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Agree with PP. Such a waste of money. We need better education for all in reading and math- that would help everyone. The diversion of funds from these critical areas is a real frustration.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 14:53     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Total waste of money. We are in one of the wealthiest and most diverse areas of the world and treat each other well almost without exception. Just another way for people to make money and create a victim mentality.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 14:20     Subject: Anti-Racist Audit
Has anyone found the antiracist audit stuff helpful? Did you find the school specific survey results more helpful or the action plan?

I'm trying to understand what is being done that will be meaningfully different from the past.