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Anonymous wrote:Op here. Isn't LVIII = math skipping? for 2nd graders, it would be going to 3rd grade for math, which is what I was asking.

We plan to apply for AAP next year, but i wanted to know how to get her in 3rd grade math when she's in 2nd.

For your questions, addition up to 100 is mastered. She knows her multiplication tables except for some 7 & 8s, (although she cheats with her fingers on the 9s). So I think she's ready for 3rd grade Advanced math. But I'm not sure how to convince the school of it.

Don't have an answer to your question but am curious how did you get her to learn multiplication tables. I need tips for my child.

I'm surprised you didn't teach her that for the 9s, you use the "subtract 1, then the digits add up to 9" rule. For example, for 9 x 6, you subtract 1 from 6 (because you know the answer has to be less than 60) to get 5. Then 5 + 4 = 9, so the answer is 54. Have her write the answers to all the 9s and have her see the pattern first. Then reach her the rule. My kids always found the 9s table easier than the 7s and the 8s, so I am impressed that she knows most of the 7s and 8s!

Op here. We used the finger trick for the 9s (hold up all your fingers, close the finger that you're multiplying by).

For multiplication (and all arithmetic), we just incorporated multiplication in our daily lives. e.g. we' handing out M&Ms and ask how many M&Ms are there in each of the 4 people at the table have 5 M&Ms each. I think using arithmetic daily ingrains it into the brain's muscle memory. That's probably why 7s and 8s are so hard - we never find a circumstance where we're multiplying by 7 or 8.

My kid also knew all his multiplication tables in first. He did not skip any math and there was no adv math in 2nd this year. I taught him how to skip count and that's how he learned. Topics like borrowing to subtract seemed to be more challenging for him.

My 2nd grader came in new to FCPS in the fall with a 499 math iReady and had already mastered the 2nd grade curriculum (and most of 3rd at a mastery level). I asked about providing additional enrichment and suggested providing 3rd grade material and our AART declined. They said that my child was receiving enrichment. They weren't at the time, but "magically" got an enrichment packet a few weeks later, along with at least one other student It was higher level thinking problems, but definitely not 3rd grade level. Finally, later in 3rd quarter they started getting pull-out math work with the AART once a week with a small group of 2nd graders.

That being said, my child was accepted for LIV for 3rd and will be attending the center. One of the driving factors is that our base school has not demonstrated the ability to differentiate effectively (and uses the cluster model).

Anonymous wrote:DC is in 1st grade. She scored a 160 on the NNAT. Her iready math back in the fall was a 450. I would like her to skip 2nd grade math next year and attend the 3rd grade advanced math class. Should I speak to her teacher, the AART, 9r the principal first? What other evidence should I provide to convince them that she should be skipped? There has been other students in DC's ES that have skipped a grade for math so it's not unprecedented. I'm just not sure how to go about asking.

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Fairfax County? 1st-2nd grade? yeah - I truly do wish you luck, but am skeptical. Iready isn't remarkable, nor is it authoritative. This level of desire indicates she should be in private, which can more cater to your requests. My son had 440 math at beginning of 1st and that wasn't even good enough to get him into the break-out groups with the AART. Maybe it depends on the school and peers.

Anonymous wrote:DC is in 1st grade. She scored a 160 on the NNAT. Her iready math back in the fall was a 450. I would like her to skip 2nd grade math next year and attend the 3rd grade advanced math class. Should I speak to her teacher, the AART, 9r the principal first? What other evidence should I provide to convince them that she should be skipped? There has been other students in DC's ES that have skipped a grade for math so it's not unprecedented. I'm just not sure how to go about asking.

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OP: the NNAT score is great, but the IReady score is nothing special and will not be an outlier. It’s likely to be considered an average score.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. Isn't LVIII = math skipping? for 2nd graders, it would be going to 3rd grade for math, which is what I was asking.

We plan to apply for AAP next year, but i wanted to know how to get her in 3rd grade math when she's in 2nd.

For your questions, addition up to 100 is mastered. She knows her multiplication tables except for some 7 & 8s, (although she cheats with her fingers on the 9s). So I think she's ready for 3rd grade Advanced math. But I'm not sure how to convince the school of it.

Don't have an answer to your question but am curious how did you get her to learn multiplication tables. I need tips for my child.

I'm surprised you didn't teach her that for the 9s, you use the "subtract 1, then the digits add up to 9" rule. For example, for 9 x 6, you subtract 1 from 6 (because you know the answer has to be less than 60) to get 5. Then 5 + 4 = 9, so the answer is 54. Have her write the answers to all the 9s and have her see the pattern first. Then reach her the rule. My kids always found the 9s table easier than the 7s and the 8s, so I am impressed that she knows most of the 7s and 8s!

My 5th grade aap son has a 3rd grade pushing into his math class.

That said - I would be surprised if it was something the parent had to ask about. I feel like that’s something the school identifies on their own.

That iready score is not particularly high as far as I can tell. I just pulled out a piece of paper that says 400-490 is on target.

What is the highest iready score because I have seen higher than 450? Ask the principal first would be my suggestion and bring up the other kids that you know have skipped if that’s true you can ask how did they go about it. I’m intrigued by this, I didn’t realize this was an option. Good luck. Advanced math is different at each school but I thought the first chance to do it was 3rd grade in most schools and 5th grade at others.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Isn't LVIII = math skipping? for 2nd graders, it would be going to 3rd grade for math, which is what I was asking.

We plan to apply for AAP next year, but i wanted to know how to get her in 3rd grade math when she's in 2nd.

For your questions, addition up to 100 is mastered. She knows her multiplication tables except for some 7 & 8s, (although she cheats with her fingers on the 9s). So I think she's ready for 3rd grade Advanced math. But I'm not sure how to convince the school of it.

Advanced math begins in 3rd grade. Your child will participate in the 2nd grade math class, but could receive enrichment and differentiation. This would be delivered (likely) by the classroom teacher. You must realize your child will not be the only kid in the classroom with the scores you indicated.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. Isn't LVIII = math skipping? for 2nd graders, it would be going to 3rd grade for math, which is what I was asking.

We plan to apply for AAP next year, but i wanted to know how to get her in 3rd grade math when she's in 2nd.

For your questions, addition up to 100 is mastered. She knows her multiplication tables except for some 7 & 8s, (although she cheats with her fingers on the 9s). So I think she's ready for 3rd grade Advanced math. But I'm not sure how to convince the school of it.

Don't have an answer to your question but am curious how did you get her to learn multiplication tables. I need tips for my child.

Not that poster, but check out the book "Multiplication facts that stock"

Ask your principal to test your child. Your child most likely isn’t advanced enough. My kid was skipped, but was 3+ years ahead in iready. One year ahead isn’t likely to be enough.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Isn't LVIII = math skipping? for 2nd graders, it would be going to 3rd grade for math, which is what I was asking.

We plan to apply for AAP next year, but i wanted to know how to get her in 3rd grade math when she's in 2nd.

For your questions, addition up to 100 is mastered. She knows her multiplication tables except for some 7 & 8s, (although she cheats with her fingers on the 9s). So I think she's ready for 3rd grade Advanced math. But I'm not sure how to convince the school of it.

Don't have an answer to your question but am curious how did you get her to learn multiplication tables. I need tips for my child.

Op here. Isn't LVIII = math skipping? for 2nd graders, it would be going to 3rd grade for math, which is what I was asking.

We plan to apply for AAP next year, but i wanted to know how to get her in 3rd grade math when she's in 2nd.

For your questions, addition up to 100 is mastered. She knows her multiplication tables except for some 7 & 8s, (although she cheats with her fingers on the 9s). So I think she's ready for 3rd grade Advanced math. But I'm not sure how to convince the school of it.

Don’t know the answer, but think it is very unlikely.

My child had same scores in first. He has now been accepted to AAP for 3rd. At our school, I believe these scores are not uncommon. Child got LVIII math services in 2nd. NNAT is an ability test not a math test.

I do not believe you have a case to skip a grade. I think you need more, have they mastered addition and multiplication facts? How are they doing with division? At our school the most you will get is level III.


If child is smart and has these scores more likely will get into AAP.

DC is in 1st grade. She scored a 160 on the NNAT. Her iready math back in the fall was a 450. I would like her to skip 2nd grade math next year and attend the 3rd grade advanced math class. Should I speak to her teacher, the AART, 9r the principal first? What other evidence should I provide to convince them that she should be skipped? There has been other students in DC's ES that have skipped a grade for math so it's not unprecedented. I'm just not sure how to go about asking.

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