Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

It's whether you would've stopped Hitler in 1939? Europe (U.S. allies) are freaked out by this:
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

Despite the cinematic music, this is not video game footage. It's the Russian military using incendiary weapons on civilian housing. The Russian army has raped, pillaged, murdered, stolen children - you name it. Go back a few pages on this post. Yesterday the Russian State Duma and Interior Ministry were trying to determine if a girl who braided her hair blue and yellow should be labeled a traitor, an Enemy of the State. This is an example of what plays on Russian national TV:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-map-us-borders-new-mexico-ukraine-war-1797231

Also, you seem to be blissfully in the dark of how the Russians have directly manipulated US public opinion using our own social media? Election interference ring a bell? Active spying? Maybe you don't watch the news?

The Cold War is hotter than it's ever been, but the American public is somewhat stupid and hasn't caught on yet.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

My understanding it’s just generally preventing Russia from becoming too strong and dangerous, and keeping the overall world order where you can’t just come in and harass any country you want. Of course it’s not always being enforced but in the key regions which otherwise may become adversaries for the US it is enforced.

Hasn’t the war showed that Russia is not so strong, and that Russia would be be capable of invading nato territory?

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Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

Standing up to authoritarian gov of Russia. Putin needs to go and I’m 1000% for this. My only criticism is that it Should have happened sooner.

So you this conflict is a tool for regime change, in your view?

Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

My understanding it’s just generally preventing Russia from becoming too strong and dangerous, and keeping the overall world order where you can’t just come in and harass any country you want. Of course it’s not always being enforced but in the key regions which otherwise may become adversaries for the US it is enforced.

Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

Standing up to authoritarian gov of Russia. Putin needs to go and I’m 1000% for this. My only criticism is that it Should have happened sooner.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you happy with this escalation, or opposed?

Personally, I am opposed and I fear this will lead to a wider war.

I also hope Biden will try to broker a deal to avoid escalation. Maybe if Russia agrees not to use its planes to bomb Ukrainian cities Ukraine will agree not to bomb cities in Russia.

DP and this is my biggest concern - I don’t think there will be nuclear anything but I don’t want civilians to die on either side.
I know I am talking like a layperson not a politician but I don’t really care who rules both these countries or how they are divided up - I am sure people will figure out their lives under either president. I do care for no more lives lost though, no more cities bombed, and no more tears shed.

What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

Anonymous wrote:Are you happy with this escalation, or opposed?

Personally, I am opposed and I fear this will lead to a wider war.

Every time the Russians threaten to respond to western military aid the Russians always back down.

Anonymous wrote:Are you happy with this escalation, or opposed?

Personally, I am opposed and I fear this will lead to a wider war.

I share your concerns about the war and hope Russia withdraws its troops from Ukraine and returns the children it has kidnapped.

I also hope Biden will try to broker a deal to avoid escalation. Maybe if Russia agrees not to use its planes to bomb Ukrainian cities Ukraine will agree not to bomb cities in Russia.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to risk nuclear war for the “Donbas.”

Time to end this war.

Oh bullshit. Russia also made the same threats about if we would send HIMARS... but did nothing. And the same threats over Patriot batteries and everything else. Russia is not stupid enough to risk its own nuclear annihilation over Donbas either.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to risk nuclear war for the “Donbas.”

Time to end this war.

As soon as he pulls out of Ukraine, the war will be over.

February 24, 2022, Russian President Vladimir Putin
“Our actions are self-defense against threats,” he told his fellow Russians, claiming Moscow had no plans to occupy Ukraine. “We do not plan to impose ourselves on anyone”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/europe/putin-ukraine-address-threat-intl/index.html

I don’t want to risk nuclear war for the “Donbas.”

Time to end this war.

I am happy with it. Russia needs its ass kicked.

I don’t know enough about what can be done with F-16s.
If they help Ukrainians defend their land better - I approve.
If they can potentially be used for bombing Russia - I think it is too much.

Are you happy with this escalation, or opposed?

Personally, I am opposed and I fear this will lead to a wider war.