Yes both of my children, we applied every year and finally got in this year 4th and 6th grade.

My daughter didn't get in when we applied in 2nd grade. In fact, she was receiving no AAP services. Even after her rejection in 2nd they still didn't consider her for LII or LIII. But they placed her in the advanced math class based on how she did on a pre-test and spent all of 3rd grade in with the LIV kids for math, science, and social studies (Local Level IV delivers LIV curriculum to all students for science and social studies). So really the only class she wasn't receiving LIV services in with Language Arts. Not her strongest area so I didn't really care BUT the school *repeatedly* reiterated that without the LIV label, students who were principal placed weren't guaranteed their spot in those advanced classes every year.

So in order to make sure she stayed in the advanced math where she was doing so well, we re-applied in 3rd grade. I had her retake the CogAT at GMU, submitted that and better work samples than what they turned in for her the first time, and she got in.

So, yes, it's absolutely possible to get in after 2nd grade. Math would be a slight problem if you come in late since the curriculum is a year ahead after awhile but if your kid is good at math, it shouldn't be hard for them to catch up.

If your child is at a noncenter school, the principal might be able to place your child into the Level IV class if there is space. You should email the principal and AART about how it works at your school. From my understanding they fill the Local Level IV class with other kids who weren't selected by the central committee (such as Level III kids). They also will put some kids in the Level IV class just for math. Then the next year you can parent refer with the form on the AAP website.

Anonymous wrote:What happens if you join in later years? Is it a big jump to merge into classes with peers who have already been in LIV since 3rd/4th grade?

In our case (LLIV), kid was in LIII and had already been in combined classes with these kids, so really no change. It was a formality.

What happens if you join in later years? Is it a big jump to merge into classes with peers who have already been in LIV since 3rd/4th grade?

My child started in 5th! He has done great! In fact way better than Gen Ed which tells me he’s in the right place!

Anonymous wrote:DD got in later through a teacher referral. If you kid is in advanced math and one of the better students in the class, they will get in down the road if you want them in. We did not ask for the referral

Same.

Can strong sol can help with appeal

Anonymous wrote:My child entered in 4th. Parents can refer until 7th, I believe.

A WISC could be helpful, as well as high SOL scores in 3rd.

SOLs will come after the AAP process in third grade. Strong SOLs would help a fourth grade application.

Just as a counterpoint, my DC entered school this year for the first time as a second grader and did not have a NNAT score either. We were also missing a CogAT subscore (and total score), due to a testing irregularity. However, we had a high individual score (140+ at a non-center school), stellar GBRS (all COs), and very strong iReadys in both reading and math. DC was both in-pool and was found eligible for LIV. Work samples focused on the missing CogAT score (while showing strengths in both verbal and math).

My child entered in 4th. Parents can refer until 7th, I believe.

A WISC could be helpful, as well as high SOL scores in 3rd.

LIV does not start until 3rd grade so every child enters LIV after 3rd grade.

Your child’s scores on the CoGAT were probably too low to be in-pool for automatic referral. You could have parent referred. You can parent refer next year.

Sure, every year you can reapply. They will retest your child once for free if you ask for it too.

DD got in later through a teacher referral. If you kid is in advanced math and one of the better students in the class, they will get in down the road if you want them in. We did not ask for the referral

My daughter was not in public school until this year when she started in 2nd grade in FCPS. I did not know what the AAP system was going to be like, and assumed the schools tested the kids and just put them into the advance placement if they scored high enough. Because she was not in FCPS in 1st grade she did not get a NNAT score/did not take the NNAT test. She did ok on the CoGAT--(Q-122, NV 121, V 132, VQN total 128) but based on these forums not AAP IV based on that. She is in level II (where they take her out of class on Fridays for a AAP class) for reading and math. I will ask for her to be in level III next year probably.

Is there another avenue to get into AAP IV beyond this 2nd grade shot? (Her ES is not an AAP IV school)

Do kids whose base school is an AAP IV school get into the AAP IV programs more frequently? (A friend whose ES school is a AAP IV school noted that recently (in the past month) parents had been asked to write a recommendation letter for thier kids, called the AAP teacher, and--one parent found out the kid made it in and the other was told the child was going to be observed). Did other people get asked to write recommendation letters for their kids? I'm wondering if i missed something or if this was just for kids that scored high