Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:27
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"What are your thoughts?"
My thoughts are that it's not exclusive to religious participation. Americans are leading increasingly lonely and isolated lives. They're not just not attending church, they're pulling back from Ruritans, ladies clubs, book groups, bowling leagues, golf leagues, yacht clubs, country clubs, DAR, union halls, VFW clubs and events, hunting clubs...
There is basically one exception. Those of us who have minor children and sufficient financial means spend a lot of our time driving and watching our kids play soccer or practice dance routines.
Pretty much anything that was once a staple of American working and middle class community life is struggling for membership or dying. Never before in the history of humankind have so many people been living alone. It's an enormous mental health problem that's rapidly worsening. So we spend a lot of time online in silo'd groups getting fed algorithms that are scientifically designed to make us angrier about whatever we're inclined to be angry about.
DCUM will love to snicker at the idea of churches declining. For our family, ours is a major source of community, friendship, service work, youth activities and friends, and so on.
Since when are DAR, yacht clubs, golf leagues staples of the American working and middle class? Even service clubs have traditionally been the purview of those with enough excess capital to fund them
The PP described a range of organizations where people formed bonds. I grew up in a blue-collar neighborhood, and my parents were involved in community service organizations (and church). The point is that our rejection of institutions leaves a vacuum and impacts people of all economic circumstances, who now find themselves lonely and disconnected.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:26
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
Church-based groups get political and take away human rights, and then people don't want to participate in church. Shocking.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:25
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"What are your thoughts?"
My thoughts are that it's not exclusive to religious participation. Americans are leading increasingly lonely and isolated lives. They're not just not attending church, they're pulling back from Ruritans, ladies clubs, book groups, bowling leagues, golf leagues, yacht clubs, country clubs, DAR, union halls, VFW clubs and events, hunting clubs...
There is basically one exception. Those of us who have minor children and sufficient financial means spend a lot of our time driving and watching our kids play soccer or practice dance routines.
Pretty much anything that was once a staple of American working and middle class community life is struggling for membership or dying. Never before in the history of humankind have so many people been living alone. It's an enormous mental health problem that's rapidly worsening. So we spend a lot of time online in silo'd groups getting fed algorithms that are scientifically designed to make us angrier about whatever we're inclined to be angry about.
DCUM will love to snicker at the idea of churches declining. For our family, ours is a major source of community, friendship, service work, youth activities and friends, and so on.
Since when are DAR, yacht clubs, golf leagues staples of the American working and middle class? Even service clubs have traditionally been the purview of those with enough excess capital to fund them
I'm happy to include upper class in my statement, as it certainly applies.
Most of what you listed are exclusionary in nature. Why is it surprising that generations raised to be inclusive aren't joining groups that define themselves by exclusion? Even on your list, the clubs that cater to the wealthy (hunting clubs and golf) are still doing great
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:25
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
Anonymous wrote:Oh yeah, people are deserting yacht clubs in droves.
Yacht clubs!
You can't make this stuff up.
Most are actually struggling. My parents' yacht club is desperate for new members. I'm sure nobody's going to be crying about them, but it's one example of many.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:23
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
Oh yeah, people are deserting yacht clubs in droves.
Yacht clubs!
You can't make this stuff up.
Yacht clubs!
You can't make this stuff up.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:22
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
When our kids were born, our church was healthy and full families. The pastor was apolitical and the focus was on service. He retired and was replaced by a pastor who loved to mention hot button issues. The families (including ours) are gone and the church is having trouble paying off a bond they used to expand in better times.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:21
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"What are your thoughts?"
My thoughts are that it's not exclusive to religious participation. Americans are leading increasingly lonely and isolated lives. They're not just not attending church, they're pulling back from Ruritans, ladies clubs, book groups, bowling leagues, golf leagues, yacht clubs, country clubs, DAR, union halls, VFW clubs and events, hunting clubs...
There is basically one exception. Those of us who have minor children and sufficient financial means spend a lot of our time driving and watching our kids play soccer or practice dance routines.
Pretty much anything that was once a staple of American working and middle class community life is struggling for membership or dying. Never before in the history of humankind have so many people been living alone. It's an enormous mental health problem that's rapidly worsening. So we spend a lot of time online in silo'd groups getting fed algorithms that are scientifically designed to make us angrier about whatever we're inclined to be angry about.
DCUM will love to snicker at the idea of churches declining. For our family, ours is a major source of community, friendship, service work, youth activities and friends, and so on.
Since when are DAR, yacht clubs, golf leagues staples of the American working and middle class? Even service clubs have traditionally been the purview of those with enough excess capital to fund them
I'm happy to include upper class in my statement, as it certainly applies.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:19
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
Anonymous wrote:"What are your thoughts?"
My thoughts are that it's not exclusive to religious participation. Americans are leading increasingly lonely and isolated lives. They're not just not attending church, they're pulling back from Ruritans, ladies clubs, book groups, bowling leagues, golf leagues, yacht clubs, country clubs, DAR, union halls, VFW clubs and events, hunting clubs...
There is basically one exception. Those of us who have minor children and sufficient financial means spend a lot of our time driving and watching our kids play soccer or practice dance routines.
Pretty much anything that was once a staple of American working and middle class community life is struggling for membership or dying. Never before in the history of humankind have so many people been living alone. It's an enormous mental health problem that's rapidly worsening. So we spend a lot of time online in silo'd groups getting fed algorithms that are scientifically designed to make us angrier about whatever we're inclined to be angry about.
DCUM will love to snicker at the idea of churches declining. For our family, ours is a major source of community, friendship, service work, youth activities and friends, and so on.
Since when are DAR, yacht clubs, golf leagues staples of the American working and middle class? Even service clubs have traditionally been the purview of those with enough excess capital to fund them
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:15
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"What are your thoughts?"
My thoughts are that it's not exclusive to religious participation. Americans are leading increasingly lonely and isolated lives. They're not just not attending church, they're pulling back from Ruritans, ladies clubs, book groups, bowling leagues, golf leagues, yacht clubs, country clubs, DAR, union halls, VFW clubs and events, hunting clubs...
There is basically one exception. Those of us who have minor children and sufficient financial means spend a lot of our time driving and watching our kids play soccer or practice dance routines.
Pretty much anything that was once a staple of American working and middle class community life is struggling for membership or dying. Never before in the history of humankind have so many people been living alone. It's an enormous mental health problem that's rapidly worsening. So we spend a lot of time online in silo'd groups getting fed algorithms that are scientifically designed to make us angrier about whatever we're inclined to be angry about.
DCUM will love to snicker at the idea of churches declining. For our family, ours is a major source of community, friendship, service work, youth activities and friends, and so on.
Agree with all of this.
+2
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:13
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
I, for one, am glad to hear it. I've not seen a ton of positive come out of churches/religion as of late.
My DH wanted to have our DC in first communion this year. It was important to him so I agreed. I found the church to be completely unwilling to compromise on any modern day issues to make it more appealing to younger families. It's also an incredibly difficult activity to keep up with given the conflicts with sports, school, and other social events.
If the church won't modernize, I see zero reason to reward it.
My DH wanted to have our DC in first communion this year. It was important to him so I agreed. I found the church to be completely unwilling to compromise on any modern day issues to make it more appealing to younger families. It's also an incredibly difficult activity to keep up with given the conflicts with sports, school, and other social events.
If the church won't modernize, I see zero reason to reward it.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:13
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
Anonymous wrote:"What are your thoughts?"
My thoughts are that it's not exclusive to religious participation. Americans are leading increasingly lonely and isolated lives. They're not just not attending church, they're pulling back from Ruritans, ladies clubs, book groups, bowling leagues, golf leagues, yacht clubs, country clubs, DAR, union halls, VFW clubs and events, hunting clubs...
There is basically one exception. Those of us who have minor children and sufficient financial means spend a lot of our time driving and watching our kids play soccer or practice dance routines.
Pretty much anything that was once a staple of American working and middle class community life is struggling for membership or dying. Never before in the history of humankind have so many people been living alone. It's an enormous mental health problem that's rapidly worsening. So we spend a lot of time online in silo'd groups getting fed algorithms that are scientifically designed to make us angrier about whatever we're inclined to be angry about.
DCUM will love to snicker at the idea of churches declining. For our family, ours is a major source of community, friendship, service work, youth activities and friends, and so on.
Agree with all of this.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:10
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
"What are your thoughts?"
My thoughts are that it's not exclusive to religious participation. Americans are leading increasingly lonely and isolated lives. They're not just not attending church, they're pulling back from Ruritans, ladies clubs, book groups, bowling leagues, golf leagues, yacht clubs, country clubs, DAR, union halls, VFW clubs and events, hunting clubs...
There is basically one exception. Those of us who have minor children and sufficient financial means spend a lot of our time driving and watching our kids play soccer or practice dance routines.
Pretty much anything that was once a staple of American working and middle class community life is struggling for membership or dying. Never before in the history of humankind have so many people been living alone. It's an enormous mental health problem that's rapidly worsening. So we spend a lot of time online in silo'd groups getting fed algorithms that are scientifically designed to make us angrier about whatever we're inclined to be angry about.
DCUM will love to snicker at the idea of churches declining. For our family, ours is a major source of community, friendship, service work, youth activities and friends, and so on.
My thoughts are that it's not exclusive to religious participation. Americans are leading increasingly lonely and isolated lives. They're not just not attending church, they're pulling back from Ruritans, ladies clubs, book groups, bowling leagues, golf leagues, yacht clubs, country clubs, DAR, union halls, VFW clubs and events, hunting clubs...
There is basically one exception. Those of us who have minor children and sufficient financial means spend a lot of our time driving and watching our kids play soccer or practice dance routines.
Pretty much anything that was once a staple of American working and middle class community life is struggling for membership or dying. Never before in the history of humankind have so many people been living alone. It's an enormous mental health problem that's rapidly worsening. So we spend a lot of time online in silo'd groups getting fed algorithms that are scientifically designed to make us angrier about whatever we're inclined to be angry about.
DCUM will love to snicker at the idea of churches declining. For our family, ours is a major source of community, friendship, service work, youth activities and friends, and so on.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:05
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
If churches would stop focusing on politics, they might get some younger folks interested again.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:03
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
Good. There is more to spirituality than going to a place of worship.
Anonymous
05/17/2023 09:02
Subject: Church attendance continues to plummet
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/17/1175452002/church-closings-religious-affiliation
Wow - "Just 16% of Americans say religion is the most important thing in their life, according to a new report released this week by the Public Religion Research Institute.".
"The sharp uptick in the number of younger Americans with no religious affiliation — a group known as the "nones" — is the major driver in a seismic shift in the religious landscape, says Ryan Burge, a political science professor at Eastern Illinois University and author of The Nones: Where They Came From, Who They Are, and Where They Are Going."
What are your thoughts?
Wow - "Just 16% of Americans say religion is the most important thing in their life, according to a new report released this week by the Public Religion Research Institute.".
"The sharp uptick in the number of younger Americans with no religious affiliation — a group known as the "nones" — is the major driver in a seismic shift in the religious landscape, says Ryan Burge, a political science professor at Eastern Illinois University and author of The Nones: Where They Came From, Who They Are, and Where They Are Going."
What are your thoughts?