dcu13
05/16/2023 11:01
Subject: Re:USYS National League v. EDP
CampChairCoffee wrote:Thanks, that’s really helpful. So basically it’s all fairly diluted because there’s so much money to be made in the youth industrial soccer complex….
Ha. Yes, the primary goal is to squeeze as much money out of parents as possible. And the more kids that play in an elite/super/premier league the better.
CampChairCoffee
05/16/2023 10:46
Subject: Re:USYS National League v. EDP
dcu13 wrote:CampChairCoffee wrote:Thanks, all. Not remotely fluent in soccer (what’s P.R.O.?) but trying to help my kid navigate the process, and it’s touchy IRL with teammates moving up and down and around.
It's totally confusing and by the time I get it all figured out my kids will be done with soccer.
PRO as it has existed for the last 10(?) years is a more selective version of National League. Basically each regional conference has 10-12 teams that compete for a league title each season. The top 2-3 teams from each conference qualify for the following season's PRO. PRO is a national league of 30-40 teams divided into a few different groups. All the teams will get together at a couple of different events and play some games. The top teams then qualify for the national championship. These events are (I assume) attended by plenty of college scouts.
You nailed it.CampChairCoffee wrote:So it sounds like national league would rank below ECNL/MLS Next in competitiveness, but above EDP and NCSL? And that’s partly based on the ability to advance in national competition, and partly because recruitment is strongest at the highest level?
Thanks, that’s really helpful. So basically it’s all fairly diluted because there’s so much money to be made in the youth industrial soccer complex….
dcu13
05/16/2023 10:12
Subject: Re:USYS National League v. EDP
CampChairCoffee wrote:Thanks, all. Not remotely fluent in soccer (what’s P.R.O.?) but trying to help my kid navigate the process, and it’s touchy IRL with teammates moving up and down and around.
It's totally confusing and by the time I get it all figured out my kids will be done with soccer.
PRO as it has existed for the last 10(?) years is a more selective version of National League. Basically each regional conference has 10-12 teams that compete for a league title each season. The top 2-3 teams from each conference qualify for the following season's PRO. PRO is a national league of 30-40 teams divided into a few different groups. All the teams will get together at a couple of different events and play some games. The top teams then qualify for the national championship. These events are (I assume) attended by plenty of college scouts.
You nailed it.CampChairCoffee wrote:So it sounds like national league would rank below ECNL/MLS Next in competitiveness, but above EDP and NCSL? And that’s partly based on the ability to advance in national competition, and partly because recruitment is strongest at the highest level?
CampChairCoffee
05/16/2023 10:02
Subject: Re:USYS National League v. EDP
BunchlineDC wrote:In simpler terms, yes, they are separate things and the National League is more competitive/higher ranking than the EDP league. But EDP runs both.
It's not confusing....
Thanks, all. Not remotely fluent in soccer (what’s P.R.O.?) but trying to help my kid navigate the process, and it’s touchy IRL with teammates moving up and down and around.
So it sounds like national league would rank below ECNL/MLS Next in competitiveness, but above EDP and NCSL? And that’s partly based on the ability to advance in national competition, and partly because recruitment is strongest at the highest level?
BunchlineDC
05/16/2023 09:41
Subject: Re:USYS National League v. EDP
In simpler terms, yes, they are separate things and the National League is more competitive/higher ranking than the EDP league. But EDP runs both.
It's not confusing....
It's not confusing....
dcu13
05/16/2023 09:37
Subject: Re:USYS National League v. EDP
@westsidesoccer gave a good overview.
Just to provide a bit more detail, National League and EDP are technically different entities but EDP runs the 4 National League conferences in the Northeast. Teams are promoted/relegated back and forth from National League II to EDP III.
Just to provide a bit more detail, National League and EDP are technically different entities but EDP runs the 4 National League conferences in the Northeast. Teams are promoted/relegated back and forth from National League II to EDP III.
westsidesoccer
05/15/2023 20:14
Subject: USYS National League v. EDP
CampChairCoffee wrote:Is there any difference between these leagues, or are they essentially the same thing?
USYS National League P.R.O. requires qualification from a USYS or EDP league and is on a team-by-team, year-by-year basis. On the boys side, P.R.O. teams statistically are expected to perform vs. MLS Next teams as well as ECNL. EDP contains multiple levels of leagues, so at a broad level of generality, they are very different vs. P.R.O., though the P.R.O. qualifiers come out of EDP leagues. USYS Elite 64 is more like ECNL format - club v. club and fixed year over year. Whether it is better than first division regional EDP depends on where your kid lives. All are at a disadvantage to MLS Next and ECNL.
CampChairCoffee
05/15/2023 18:57
Subject: USYS National League v. EDP
Is there any difference between these leagues, or are they essentially the same thing?