Anonymous
Post 05/16/2023 12:00     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
Anonymous wrote:What do they define as hate speech? It’s very vague, like everything else in MCPS

I had a kid yell “shut up” to another kid because he was actually standing and texting the Pledge of Allegiance unlike the rest of his peers.


I heard a kid yell "Chicken butt!"
Is that hate speech?
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2023 08:02     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
What do they define as hate speech? It’s very vague, like everything else in MCPS

I had a kid yell “shut up” to another kid because he was actually standing and texting the Pledge of Allegiance unlike the rest of his peers.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 22:45     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
The Zoom is teaching about racism spreading in pop culture. The "permanent record" part looks like an advertising hook with no basis in fact.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 22:16     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess a lot more people are going to be taking these all the way through the appeals process to avoid that. Parents are willing to accept Timmy has detention for doing "x" but when the record is permanent, they may appeal and make a school prove "x" happened, and good luck with that


I'm curious. Does anyone know how Permanent Records work? Or whether there is a policy about hate/bias to record acts on a kid's permanent record?

Is this real? I can't believe this is legal. If someone is disparaging a minor for life without a prior conviction in a court of law, I don't see how it will stick?


Did you know that your student's transcript is also maintained on file for many years, without prior conviction in a court of law?
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 18:31     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
Anonymous wrote:I guess a lot more people are going to be taking these all the way through the appeals process to avoid that. Parents are willing to accept Timmy has detention for doing "x" but when the record is permanent, they may appeal and make a school prove "x" happened, and good luck with that


I'm curious. Does anyone know how Permanent Records work? Or whether there is a policy about hate/bias to record acts on a kid's permanent record?

Is this real? I can't believe this is legal. If someone is disparaging a minor for life without a prior conviction in a court of law, I don't see how it will stick?
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 18:15     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I received an email stating there is a caregiver meeting on the 31st to discuss the new MCPS policy of keeping hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records, it is critical for caregivers to understand how kids might unknowingly be promoting hate/bias speech. I didn’t know this had been rolled out and am curious to learn more.

BUT When I went to register for the meeting, the zoom links and flyer were only in Spanish. Does anyone know anything about the policy or the meeting? Is it just for the Spanish speaking community?


Curious about this as well. Was this meeting just for a specific school, OP?


OP here- no it looked like it was an MCPS event. Here’s what we received:

“Good Evening MCPS Families,

MCPS is hosting a caregiver event with a Spanish interpreter on May 31, at 7 pm focused on helping caregivers understand how kids are being influenced to promote hatred through social media, gaming, and popular culture.

With the new policy of keeping hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records, it is critical for caregivers to understand how kids might unknowingly be promoting hate/bias speech.

https://mcpsmd.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_479EhzsIRGmTXil4ZOWbQQ#/registration


The one in English was on May 10, and it looks to me like a Cabin John MS event.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/cabinjohnms/news-index/2023/popular-culture/
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 17:47     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess a lot more people are going to be taking these all the way through the appeals process to avoid that. Parents are willing to accept Timmy has detention for doing "x" but when the record is permanent, they may appeal and make a school prove "x" happened, and good luck with that


I'm curious what they consider as hate/bias act. I see tons of bullying and fights on a regular basis that are hateful acts but because of RJ, nothing ever happens. That's why I'm surprised to hear about this.


Or maybe this is MCPS putting a policy and consequences in place to deal with the hate/bias incidents. Particular as the y have been happening frequently this year and folks are being told to file complaints and report. Kids and families are getting sick of it, so it’s about time MCPS does something.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 17:22     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I received an email stating there is a caregiver meeting on the 31st to discuss the new MCPS policy of keeping hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records, it is critical for caregivers to understand how kids might unknowingly be promoting hate/bias speech. I didn’t know this had been rolled out and am curious to learn more.

BUT When I went to register for the meeting, the zoom links and flyer were only in Spanish. Does anyone know anything about the policy or the meeting? Is it just for the Spanish speaking community?


Curious about this as well. Was this meeting just for a specific school, OP?


OP here- no it looked like it was an MCPS event. Here’s what we received:

“Good Evening MCPS Families,

MCPS is hosting a caregiver event with a Spanish interpreter on May 31, at 7 pm focused on helping caregivers understand how kids are being influenced to promote hatred through social media, gaming, and popular culture.

With the new policy of keeping hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records, it is critical for caregivers to understand how kids might unknowingly be promoting hate/bias speech.

https://mcpsmd.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_479EhzsIRGmTXil4ZOWbQQ#/registration
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 17:06     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
Anonymous wrote:I guess a lot more people are going to be taking these all the way through the appeals process to avoid that. Parents are willing to accept Timmy has detention for doing "x" but when the record is permanent, they may appeal and make a school prove "x" happened, and good luck with that


I'm curious what they consider as hate/bias act. I see tons of bullying and fights on a regular basis that are hateful acts but because of RJ, nothing ever happens. That's why I'm surprised to hear about this.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 17:03     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
I guess a lot more people are going to be taking these all the way through the appeals process to avoid that. Parents are willing to accept Timmy has detention for doing "x" but when the record is permanent, they may appeal and make a school prove "x" happened, and good luck with that
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 17:01     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
So they want parents to lawyer up I guess
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 16:59     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
Anonymous wrote:I received an email stating there is a caregiver meeting on the 31st to discuss the new MCPS policy of keeping hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records, it is critical for caregivers to understand how kids might unknowingly be promoting hate/bias speech. I didn’t know this had been rolled out and am curious to learn more.

BUT When I went to register for the meeting, the zoom links and flyer were only in Spanish. Does anyone know anything about the policy or the meeting? Is it just for the Spanish speaking community?


Curious about this as well. Was this meeting just for a specific school, OP?
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 14:58     Subject: Re:Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
Anonymous wrote:Permanent records are a myth.


Right now. No one, outside of MCPS, has access to these "permanent records" so they're not the threat that they appear to be.

I guess maybe if you end up going on to commit criminal acts, they can look at it to substantiate a pattern of misbehavior. But other than that, it's irrelevant for 95% of the population.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 14:55     Subject: Re:Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
Permanent records are a myth.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 14:53     Subject: Hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records,
I received an email stating there is a caregiver meeting on the 31st to discuss the new MCPS policy of keeping hate/bias acts on kids’ permanent records, it is critical for caregivers to understand how kids might unknowingly be promoting hate/bias speech. I didn’t know this had been rolled out and am curious to learn more.

BUT When I went to register for the meeting, the zoom links and flyer were only in Spanish. Does anyone know anything about the policy or the meeting? Is it just for the Spanish speaking community?