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Anonymous wrote:Case Western is big on yield protection. At my kid's HS they waitlist all the high stats kids. I'd almost want to say that with a 35/36 ACT its better to go test optional.

This admission cycle my NOVA kid chose CS at UMD ($10k merit per year) over Case engineering ($30k) as well as BU ($25k), Lehigh ($30k) WM ($0), Ohio St. ($16.5k), UMN ($25k) and Pitt ($0). Really enjoyed our visit. He was deferred to RD from EA. He was bitter about the deferral. He would have liked to get out of the DMV, but think he made the smart choice.

I agree. CWRU might have been an option for my kid too but the deferral crossed them off.

I don't understand the "deferral crossed them off"? If you kid wanted to go and would have accepted in EA, what was the "better offer" from a RD school that swayed them?
It's not like they were Waitlisted--that I can understand. After May 1 most kids move on

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Anonymous wrote:Case Western is big on yield protection. At my kid's HS they waitlist all the high stats kids. I'd almost want to say that with a 35/36 ACT its better to go test optional.

This admission cycle my NOVA kid chose CS at UMD ($10k merit per year) over Case engineering ($30k) as well as BU ($25k), Lehigh ($30k) WM ($0), Ohio St. ($16.5k), UMN ($25k) and Pitt ($0). Really enjoyed our visit. He was deferred to RD from EA. He was bitter about the deferral. He would have liked to get out of the DMV, but think he made the smart choice.

I agree. CWRU might have been an option for my kid too but the deferral crossed them off.

Anonymous wrote:Case Western is big on yield protection. At my kid's HS they waitlist all the high stats kids. I'd almost want to say that with a 35/36 ACT its better to go test optional.

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Anonymous wrote:If cost is the same, which would you choose and why?

Case Western.

Case Western is a great, respected university.

I think that, on paper, UMd. is higher-ranked. UMd. also offers easier access to cool NASA, NSA and NSA-type internships and jobs.

These days, because college is so expensive, UMd. probably gets a higher percentage of the super hard-working, medium-bright kids.

But Case Western probably gets about as many of the super bright kids (because of high-end merit aid) and more medium-bright kids who have money.

Those medium-bright kids with money may be somewhat lazier but more fun than the poor, very hard-working, medium-bright kids at UMd.

And the whole shtick at a private university is that you get smaller classes sizes and better support services.

Another thing is that people make fun of Cleveland but Case Western is in a separate, park-like campus in a big, beautiful, historic, affordable city with top research hospitals and tons of rich people who are eager to invest in local startups. It’s the perfect type of city for an undergrad who isn’t a billionaire and wants to be in a city.

So, in my opinion, the prestige levels are roughly the same, or tilted a bit in UMd.’s favor.

But the Case Western setting is nicer, for a student who wants that setting. For a very serious, shy, somewhat geeky student, going to Case Western is probably more comfortable and more fun than going to a state flagship.

Another advantage of going to Case Western is that everyone at FAANG and NASA has heard of Case Western, and Case Western is in the middle of a separate engineering universe.

Case Western kids can go where UMd. grads go when NASA and FAANG are hopping, and they can go get jobs at protected little refuges at the Cleveland Clinic or midsize industrial companies we’ve never heard of when conditions are bad.

So, a smart, geeky student who majors in engineering at Case Western is probably more likely to be comfortable and have fun than a comparable student at UMd.; is more likely to get decent academic support; is less likely to be weeded out; and might be a little more resistant to engineering hiring downturns.

But I’d favor UMd. if the student was eager to work for NASA or another federal agency; hated the Cleveland area; or wanted to go tailgate parties.

With that many “probably” in your post, do you know anything for sure?

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Anonymous wrote:Case Western is big on yield protection. At my kid's HS they waitlist all the high stats kids. I'd almost want to say that with a 35/36 ACT its better to go test optional.

This admission cycle my NOVA kid chose CS at UMD ($10k merit per year) over Case engineering ($30k) as well as BU ($25k), Lehigh ($30k) WM ($0), Ohio St. ($16.5k), UMN ($25k) and Pitt ($0). Really enjoyed our visit. He was deferred to RD from EA. He was bitter about the deferral. He would have liked to get out of the DMV, but think he made the smart choice.

Anonymous wrote:Case Western is big on yield protection. At my kid's HS they waitlist all the high stats kids. I'd almost want to say that with a 35/36 ACT its better to go test optional.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If cost is the same, which would you choose and why?

Case Western.

Case Western is a great, respected university.

I think that, on paper, UMd. is higher-ranked. UMd. also offers easier access to cool NASA, NSA and NSA-type internships and jobs.

These days, because college is so expensive, UMd. probably gets a higher percentage of the super hard-working, medium-bright kids.

But Case Western probably gets about as many of the super bright kids (because of high-end merit aid) and more medium-bright kids who have money.

Those medium-bright kids with money may be somewhat lazier but more fun than the poor, very hard-working, medium-bright kids at UMd.

And the whole shtick at a private university is that you get smaller classes sizes and better support services.

Another thing is that people make fun of Cleveland but Case Western is in a separate, park-like campus in a big, beautiful, historic, affordable city with top research hospitals and tons of rich people who are eager to invest in local startups. It’s the perfect type of city for an undergrad who isn’t a billionaire and wants to be in a city.

So, in my opinion, the prestige levels are roughly the same, or tilted a bit in UMd.’s favor.

But the Case Western setting is nicer, for a student who wants that setting. For a very serious, shy, somewhat geeky student, going to Case Western is probably more comfortable and more fun than going to a state flagship.

Another advantage of going to Case Western is that everyone at FAANG and NASA has heard of Case Western, and Case Western is in the middle of a separate engineering universe.

Case Western kids can go where UMd. grads go when NASA and FAANG are hopping, and they can go get jobs at protected little refuges at the Cleveland Clinic or midsize industrial companies we’ve never heard of when conditions are bad.

So, a smart, geeky student who majors in engineering at Case Western is probably more likely to be comfortable and have fun than a comparable student at UMd.; is more likely to get decent academic support; is less likely to be weeded out; and might be a little more resistant to engineering hiring downturns.

But I’d favor UMd. if the student was eager to work for NASA or another federal agency; hated the Cleveland area; or wanted to go tailgate parties.

With that many “probably” in your post, do you know anything for sure?

I’d say, probably not!

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Anonymous wrote:If cost is the same, which would you choose and why?

Case Western.

Case Western is a great, respected university.

I think that, on paper, UMd. is higher-ranked. UMd. also offers easier access to cool NASA, NSA and NSA-type internships and jobs.

These days, because college is so expensive, UMd. probably gets a higher percentage of the super hard-working, medium-bright kids.

But Case Western probably gets about as many of the super bright kids (because of high-end merit aid) and more medium-bright kids who have money.

Those medium-bright kids with money may be somewhat lazier but more fun than the poor, very hard-working, medium-bright kids at UMd.

And the whole shtick at a private university is that you get smaller classes sizes and better support services.

Another thing is that people make fun of Cleveland but Case Western is in a separate, park-like campus in a big, beautiful, historic, affordable city with top research hospitals and tons of rich people who are eager to invest in local startups. It’s the perfect type of city for an undergrad who isn’t a billionaire and wants to be in a city.

So, in my opinion, the prestige levels are roughly the same, or tilted a bit in UMd.’s favor.

But the Case Western setting is nicer, for a student who wants that setting. For a very serious, shy, somewhat geeky student, going to Case Western is probably more comfortable and more fun than going to a state flagship.

Another advantage of going to Case Western is that everyone at FAANG and NASA has heard of Case Western, and Case Western is in the middle of a separate engineering universe.

Case Western kids can go where UMd. grads go when NASA and FAANG are hopping, and they can go get jobs at protected little refuges at the Cleveland Clinic or midsize industrial companies we’ve never heard of when conditions are bad.

So, a smart, geeky student who majors in engineering at Case Western is probably more likely to be comfortable and have fun than a comparable student at UMd.; is more likely to get decent academic support; is less likely to be weeded out; and might be a little more resistant to engineering hiring downturns.

But I’d favor UMd. if the student was eager to work for NASA or another federal agency; hated the Cleveland area; or wanted to go tailgate parties.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If cost is the same, which would you choose and why?

Case Western.

Case Western is a great, respected university.

I think that, on paper, UMd. is higher-ranked. UMd. also offers easier access to cool NASA, NSA and NSA-type internships and jobs.

These days, because college is so expensive, UMd. probably gets a higher percentage of the super hard-working, medium-bright kids.

But Case Western probably gets about as many of the super bright kids (because of high-end merit aid) and more medium-bright kids who have money.

Those medium-bright kids with money may be somewhat lazier but more fun than the poor, very hard-working, medium-bright kids at UMd.

And the whole shtick at a private university is that you get smaller classes sizes and better support services.

Another thing is that people make fun of Cleveland but Case Western is in a separate, park-like campus in a big, beautiful, historic, affordable city with top research hospitals and tons of rich people who are eager to invest in local startups. It’s the perfect type of city for an undergrad who isn’t a billionaire and wants to be in a city.

So, in my opinion, the prestige levels are roughly the same, or tilted a bit in UMd.’s favor.

But the Case Western setting is nicer, for a student who wants that setting. For a very serious, shy, somewhat geeky student, going to Case Western is probably more comfortable and more fun than going to a state flagship.

Another advantage of going to Case Western is that everyone at FAANG and NASA has heard of Case Western, and Case Western is in the middle of a separate engineering universe.

Case Western kids can go where UMd. grads go when NASA and FAANG are hopping, and they can go get jobs at protected little refuges at the Cleveland Clinic or midsize industrial companies we’ve never heard of when conditions are bad.

So, a smart, geeky student who majors in engineering at Case Western is probably more likely to be comfortable and have fun than a comparable student at UMd.; is more likely to get decent academic support; is less likely to be weeded out; and might be a little more resistant to engineering hiring downturns.

But I’d favor UMd. if the student was eager to work for NASA or another federal agency; hated the Cleveland area; or wanted to go tailgate parties.

With that many “probably” in your post, do you know anything for sure?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If cost is the same, which would you choose and why?

Case Western.

Case Western is a great, respected university.

I think that, on paper, UMd. is higher-ranked. UMd. also offers easier access to cool NASA, NSA and NSA-type internships and jobs.

These days, because college is so expensive, UMd. probably gets a higher percentage of the super hard-working, medium-bright kids.

But Case Western probably gets about as many of the super bright kids (because of high-end merit aid) and more medium-bright kids who have money.

Those medium-bright kids with money may be somewhat lazier but more fun than the poor, very hard-working, medium-bright kids at UMd.

And the whole shtick at a private university is that you get smaller classes sizes and better support services.

Another thing is that people make fun of Cleveland but Case Western is in a separate, park-like campus in a big, beautiful, historic, affordable city with top research hospitals and tons of rich people who are eager to invest in local startups. It’s the perfect type of city for an undergrad who isn’t a billionaire and wants to be in a city.

So, in my opinion, the prestige levels are roughly the same, or tilted a bit in UMd.’s favor.

But the Case Western setting is nicer, for a student who wants that setting. For a very serious, shy, somewhat geeky student, going to Case Western is probably more comfortable and more fun than going to a state flagship.

Another advantage of going to Case Western is that everyone at FAANG and NASA has heard of Case Western, and Case Western is in the middle of a separate engineering universe.

Case Western kids can go where UMd. grads go when NASA and FAANG are hopping, and they can go get jobs at protected little refuges at the Cleveland Clinic or midsize industrial companies we’ve never heard of when conditions are bad.

So, a smart, geeky student who majors in engineering at Case Western is probably more likely to be comfortable and have fun than a comparable student at UMd.; is more likely to get decent academic support; is less likely to be weeded out; and might be a little more resistant to engineering hiring downturns.

But I’d favor UMd. if the student was eager to work for NASA or another federal agency; hated the Cleveland area; or wanted to go tailgate parties.

Anonymous wrote:If cost is the same, which would you choose and why?