Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

Oh FFS. Kids are still being taught all of these things.

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

Conservative parents get ignored because they hyperbolically lie, exaggerate and distort, and are not to be believed.

The rest of us will change what needs to be changed.

Fwiw, liberal parents tolerated progressive teaching in schools for a long time, willing to trust that their kids would be okay, even if they were not taught how to read, write, spell, multiply, divide, taught history or science, etc. And for the most, part, with the help of tutors, the kids were fine.

Then the pandemic and virtual school happened and liberal parents realized that school needs to change.

A few conservatives complaining about schools just get ignored. Parents, liberal parents, make changes.

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Anonymous wrote:Some districts, like DC are really struggling but then again those issues go far beyond the school system to poverty and instability in the home.

Yup. School educational outcomes are pretty well correlated with the economic metrics of the districts in which they’re located.

Very easy to warehouse the poor & downtrodden into their own school district

Anonymous wrote:TLDR but if the right wants it I’m against it.

This is how we got the Lucy Caulkins crap instead of phonics. Try thinking for yourself instead of living to react to someone else.

Anonymous wrote:Some districts, like DC are really struggling but then again those issues go far beyond the school system to poverty and instability in the home.

Yup. School educational outcomes are pretty well correlated with the economic metrics of the districts in which they’re located.

Anonymous wrote:TLDR but if the right wants it I’m against it.

This is why the country has become a global embarrassment, people like you that only want to disagree because someone else wants it and not the end result that would benefit a majority of people.

Some districts, like DC are really struggling but then again those issues go far beyond the school system to poverty and instability in the home.

I went to “failing schools” but I certainly did not fail.

TLDR but if the right wants it I’m against it.

You've been duped. The public education system has not failed. Most people love the school their kids go to. And, kids going from public education to private education usually regress as a result of the transition.

The people who want to get their mitts on that sweet, sweet public education money have been marketing the hell out of "failing schools" for the last 20 years. It is true, however, that school systems in other countries out perform ours. Their superior performance doesn't come from vouchers or "classical education." If we want our schools to perform better, we should copy what works in those countries.

No the public education system has failed in many places across the country. If my tax dollars are going to be used to support the education of the next generation, and I believe that is a good use of my tax dollars, then it should follow the child, not support a failed system.

The right wants to justify publicly funding privately operated schools so their kids don’t have to go to school with black people.

The article makes some good points but I think it fails to address the root cause of the right-wing push to classical education. This is happening partially as a backlash because the right does not want kids to be taught things like gender ideology and so-called “anti-racism”.

I’m on the Right myself, but I think this article shows us what happens when modern conservatives champion “classical education”( which they know nothing about j

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