Anonymous
04/15/2023 18:29
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
i guess they named Advanced English 6-8 and Honors English 9, 10 to appease the equity and tiger parents too. It is misleading.
also that's too bad those courses are required and that you can't substitute English electives.
also that's too bad those courses are required and that you can't substitute English electives.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 16:57
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They do it to appease the high-maintenance tiger parents.
OP here- I think you are right!
I was grateful for the CES, but once DC got to MS, I had to pick up the slack. I was always on the lookout for engaging books or coming up with ways to help enrich their vocabulary. I'm hoping HS is better, but besides AP Lang etc, I'm probably kidding.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 16:50
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:They do it to appease the high-maintenance tiger parents.
OP here- I think you are right!
Anonymous
04/15/2023 15:49
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS, if they don’t already, should provide more options than “advanced” english in MS and “honors” English 9 and 10 which sound generic and underwhelming.
My kids are still in ES so I don’t know what ELA offerings there are beyond. But at my HS, some of my favorite classes were Irish literature, science fiction, and European literature. So if MCPS is unwilling or unable to offer accelerated ELA in MS, and anything other than AP for HS, maybe focus on developing the love of letters instead with rich course offerings.
4th grade CES is much more challenging than MS English
This. MS Advanced English is just regular English. It is a terrible class at our MS.
At our school, it's genuinely advanced. They've raised expectations for everyone which has helped many achieve new highs previously that were unattainable.
Which middle school is this?
Yes, I am curious too.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 14:16
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS, if they don’t already, should provide more options than “advanced” english in MS and “honors” English 9 and 10 which sound generic and underwhelming.
My kids are still in ES so I don’t know what ELA offerings there are beyond. But at my HS, some of my favorite classes were Irish literature, science fiction, and European literature. So if MCPS is unwilling or unable to offer accelerated ELA in MS, and anything other than AP for HS, maybe focus on developing the love of letters instead with rich course offerings.
4th grade CES is much more challenging than MS English
This. MS Advanced English is just regular English. It is a terrible class at our MS.
At our school, it's genuinely advanced. They've raised expectations for everyone which has helped many achieve new highs previously that were unattainable.
Which middle school is this?
Anonymous
04/15/2023 14:15
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS, if they don’t already, should provide more options than “advanced” english in MS and “honors” English 9 and 10 which sound generic and underwhelming.
My kids are still in ES so I don’t know what ELA offerings there are beyond. But at my HS, some of my favorite classes were Irish literature, science fiction, and European literature. So if MCPS is unwilling or unable to offer accelerated ELA in MS, and anything other than AP for HS, maybe focus on developing the love of letters instead with rich course offerings.
4th grade CES is much more challenging than MS English
OP here- I am aware. My kid went to CES but now at a regular middle school. Which is why I am wondering if it was worth it for him to go to CES in the first place. I think his transition was very hard because he saw what education could look like and now he is so disappointed.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 13:46
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS, if they don’t already, should provide more options than “advanced” english in MS and “honors” English 9 and 10 which sound generic and underwhelming.
My kids are still in ES so I don’t know what ELA offerings there are beyond. But at my HS, some of my favorite classes were Irish literature, science fiction, and European literature. So if MCPS is unwilling or unable to offer accelerated ELA in MS, and anything other than AP for HS, maybe focus on developing the love of letters instead with rich course offerings.
4th grade CES is much more challenging than MS English
This. MS Advanced English is just regular English. It is a terrible class at our MS.
At our school, it's genuinely advanced. They've raised expectations for everyone which has helped many achieve new highs previously that were unattainable.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 13:22
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS, if they don’t already, should provide more options than “advanced” english in MS and “honors” English 9 and 10 which sound generic and underwhelming.
My kids are still in ES so I don’t know what ELA offerings there are beyond. But at my HS, some of my favorite classes were Irish literature, science fiction, and European literature. So if MCPS is unwilling or unable to offer accelerated ELA in MS, and anything other than AP for HS, maybe focus on developing the love of letters instead with rich course offerings.
4th grade CES is much more challenging than MS English
This. MS Advanced English is just regular English. It is a terrible class at our MS.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 13:05
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Strong readers are placed in advanced reading groups in k-3. Beginning in 4th grade some can go to ces others can get elc at their base school. For middle school, since the magnet eastern is too far away many chose not to send their kids there. So everyone gets to take advanced english in 6th grade. And so it continues like that. Most students take honors English 9 and 10, then AP lang in junior year and AP lit in senior year. So what was the point of providing elc, ces at elementary level when those opportunities are no longer available in middle and high schools unless you go to magnet schools and we all know that most ces kids do not go to magnet middle or magnet high school. I guess what I am trying to understand is that, by enriching the child in elementary school snd then having them take the regular path is’nt that pointless? Because a string reader will be a strong reader with or without ces and enrichment. It seems like a letdown looking at middle school and beyond after ces. Any thoughts?
MS "Advanced English" is just on-grade level English. There are not texts above grade level included. Ditto with "Honors English" in high school.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 11:56
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS, if they don’t already, should provide more options than “advanced” english in MS and “honors” English 9 and 10 which sound generic and underwhelming.
My kids are still in ES so I don’t know what ELA offerings there are beyond. But at my HS, some of my favorite classes were Irish literature, science fiction, and European literature. So if MCPS is unwilling or unable to offer accelerated ELA in MS, and anything other than AP for HS, maybe focus on developing the love of letters instead with rich course offerings.
High schools do offer English electives, but they don't take the place of the required English 9 and 10, which are typically Honors-for-all classes these days.
They need to pass a law that requires truth in naming these classes. Honors for all is just regular English.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 11:55
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:MCPS, if they don’t already, should provide more options than “advanced” english in MS and “honors” English 9 and 10 which sound generic and underwhelming.
My kids are still in ES so I don’t know what ELA offerings there are beyond. But at my HS, some of my favorite classes were Irish literature, science fiction, and European literature. So if MCPS is unwilling or unable to offer accelerated ELA in MS, and anything other than AP for HS, maybe focus on developing the love of letters instead with rich course offerings.
4th grade CES is much more challenging than MS English
Anonymous
04/15/2023 11:31
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Anonymous wrote:MCPS, if they don’t already, should provide more options than “advanced” english in MS and “honors” English 9 and 10 which sound generic and underwhelming.
My kids are still in ES so I don’t know what ELA offerings there are beyond. But at my HS, some of my favorite classes were Irish literature, science fiction, and European literature. So if MCPS is unwilling or unable to offer accelerated ELA in MS, and anything other than AP for HS, maybe focus on developing the love of letters instead with rich course offerings.
High schools do offer English electives, but they don't take the place of the required English 9 and 10, which are typically Honors-for-all classes these days.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 10:41
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
MCPS, if they don’t already, should provide more options than “advanced” english in MS and “honors” English 9 and 10 which sound generic and underwhelming.
My kids are still in ES so I don’t know what ELA offerings there are beyond. But at my HS, some of my favorite classes were Irish literature, science fiction, and European literature. So if MCPS is unwilling or unable to offer accelerated ELA in MS, and anything other than AP for HS, maybe focus on developing the love of letters instead with rich course offerings.
My kids are still in ES so I don’t know what ELA offerings there are beyond. But at my HS, some of my favorite classes were Irish literature, science fiction, and European literature. So if MCPS is unwilling or unable to offer accelerated ELA in MS, and anything other than AP for HS, maybe focus on developing the love of letters instead with rich course offerings.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 09:51
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
They do it to appease the high-maintenance tiger parents.
Anonymous
04/15/2023 09:45
Subject: Ela Enrichment and acceleration in elementary school
Strong readers are placed in advanced reading groups in k-3. Beginning in 4th grade some can go to ces others can get elc at their base school. For middle school, since the magnet eastern is too far away many chose not to send their kids there. So everyone gets to take advanced english in 6th grade. And so it continues like that. Most students take honors English 9 and 10, then AP lang in junior year and AP lit in senior year. So what was the point of providing elc, ces at elementary level when those opportunities are no longer available in middle and high schools unless you go to magnet schools and we all know that most ces kids do not go to magnet middle or magnet high school. I guess what I am trying to understand is that, by enriching the child in elementary school snd then having them take the regular path is’nt that pointless? Because a string reader will be a strong reader with or without ces and enrichment. It seems like a letdown looking at middle school and beyond after ces. Any thoughts?