Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 12:33     Subject: Re:UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends
Anonymous wrote:
Are there data on what proportion of the 6300 Latinos at UC Berkeley are considered to be caucasian vs indigenous / BIPOC?

Would those be appropriate metrics to assess diversity?



I expect that data does exist, somewhere, but certainly not on the websites that provide the demographic breakdowns of UC colleges.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2023 11:21     Subject: Re:UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends

Are there data on what proportion of the 6300 Latinos at UC Berkeley are considered to be caucasian vs indigenous / BIPOC?

Would those be appropriate metrics to assess diversity?

Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 12:07     Subject: UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends
The frothing racists who complain about white Hispanics do not understand or care that “Hispanic/Latino” is not in the same selection spot in the UC application or the common app as race. The UCs know precisely who is white Hispanic and who is not. And as a PP noted, many select white because they don’t have the correct choice available to them.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 11:55     Subject: Re:UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
"Carol T. Christ, the university chancellor, who is White, has pushed several years for UC-Berkeley to secure a federal designation as a Hispanic-serving institution. That would help the university qualify for certain federal funding, but it would also mark a demographic milestone.

To accomplish that, one key benchmark would be for 25 percent of its students to identify as Latino or Hispanic. “We think we’re going to make it,” Christ said."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/11/27/uc-berkeley-admissions-race-diversity/




folderol

Does that include "white hispanic"? IMO, that's cheating. The point of the Hispanic serving institution is not about helping white Hispanics, but the brown ones who tend to be lower income and more discriminated against in society.

To clarify, Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race. In the Common App, the ethnicity question is separate from race. The questions and responses are based on federal reporting requirements for colleges. Most Hispanics in the US, even "brown" ones, choose white for the race question as there is no option for Mestizo.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 11:01     Subject: UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends
UC Riverside and UC Merced were set up specifically to accommodate Hispanic students and their numbers reflect the success of that effort:

Merced - 55.7% Hispanic, 19% Asian, 8.8% White etc

Riverside - 41.5% Hispanic, 33.8% Asian, 11% White etc
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 10:43     Subject: Re:UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends
Anonymous wrote:
"Carol T. Christ, the university chancellor, who is White, has pushed several years for UC-Berkeley to secure a federal designation as a Hispanic-serving institution. That would help the university qualify for certain federal funding, but it would also mark a demographic milestone.

To accomplish that, one key benchmark would be for 25 percent of its students to identify as Latino or Hispanic. “We think we’re going to make it,” Christ said."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/11/27/uc-berkeley-admissions-race-diversity/




folderol

Does that include "white hispanic"? IMO, that's cheating. The point of the Hispanic serving institution is not about helping white Hispanics, but the brown ones who tend to be lower income and more discriminated against in society.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 10:31     Subject: Re:UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends

"Carol T. Christ, the university chancellor, who is White, has pushed several years for UC-Berkeley to secure a federal designation as a Hispanic-serving institution. That would help the university qualify for certain federal funding, but it would also mark a demographic milestone.

To accomplish that, one key benchmark would be for 25 percent of its students to identify as Latino or Hispanic. “We think we’re going to make it,” Christ said."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/11/27/uc-berkeley-admissions-race-diversity/




folderol
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 10:18     Subject: Re:UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends

"UCLA devotes up to $2 million annually to aggressively recruit diverse students and then convince them to accept their admission offers."

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-10-31/california-banned-affirmative-action-uc-struggles-for-diversity
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 09:18     Subject: UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Berkeley and UCLA demographics are now similar to their pre- Prop 209 numbers.

If the Supreme Court rules against Harvard & UNC, the schools may copy the UC playbook, so not much would change - the schools will generate the demographics they desire:

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/uc-berkeley-ucla-demographic-trends/3635116


Prop 209 was issued in 1998. It’s now 2023. Also, you have to remember that the UCs haven’t just been laying around and waiting. They’ve been heavily using race targeted recruitment strategies and more just to try and reach those numbers, which has proven to be very costly for them.

Costly in what ways?
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 09:07     Subject: UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends
Anonymous wrote:Berkeley and UCLA demographics are now similar to their pre- Prop 209 numbers.

If the Supreme Court rules against Harvard & UNC, the schools may copy the UC playbook, so not much would change - the schools will generate the demographics they desire:

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/uc-berkeley-ucla-demographic-trends/3635116


Prop 209 was issued in 1998. It’s now 2023. Also, you have to remember that the UCs haven’t just been laying around and waiting. They’ve been heavily using race targeted recruitment strategies and more just to try and reach those numbers, which has proven to be very costly for them.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 09:00     Subject: UC Berkeley and UCLA demographic trends
Berkeley and UCLA demographics are now similar to their pre- Prop 209 numbers.

If the Supreme Court rules against Harvard & UNC, the schools may copy the UC playbook, so not much would change - the schools will generate the demographics they desire:

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/uc-berkeley-ucla-demographic-trends/3635116