Do many oriole are allergic to goldenrod…. I wouldn’t!

what kind of daylillies do you think they are? if they seem like they are the wild orange ones, you can eat the shoots and may be able to eat the tubers too (though you should probably research that one). the shoots are actually pretty tasty. If they are hybrid ones, you may want to post on a listserv or something that the lillies are free to whover wants to dig them up.

and i agree that monarda is very agressive and that jacob kline and most of the older varieties are mildew magnets.

If you’re getting monarda plant one of the newer varieties. I have Jacob’s Cline and it is a mildew magnet.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks PPs. Will try the cardboard under mulch.
What are some of the more aggressive natives that work well for this?

Monarda/bee balm comes to mind as does Obedient Plant. They're in the mint family and spreads just as quickly. Birds and pollinators love them. If you're near Springfield, I'd be happy to give you as much as you want of both.


https://www.bluestoneperennials.com/genus/monarda.html
https://www.prairienursery.com/obedient-plant-physostegia-virginiana.html

Oh, yes. Obedient plant will spread like crazy if you have a sunny spot.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks PPs. Will try the cardboard under mulch.
What are some of the more aggressive natives that work well for this?

Monarda/bee balm comes to mind as does Obedient Plant. They're in the mint family and spreads just as quickly. Birds and pollinators love them. If you're near Springfield, I'd be happy to give you as much as you want of both.


https://www.bluestoneperennials.com/genus/monarda.html
https://www.prairienursery.com/obedient-plant-physostegia-virginiana.html

If the area is sunny, you should also consider a native goldenrod. They spread and support the most pollinators. You can find which native plants are suited to you area here: https://www.audubon.org/native-plants

Also bee balm and black-eyed susans spread really well.

Anonymous wrote:We moved into a house that has a lot of daylilies and liriope in the yard. Any tips for removing them? I've dug them up spring and fall of last year in the hope of thinning them out but they're back and it looks like I barely made a dent. I would love to have space to plant more bird, butterfly and bee friendly plants.

Liriope is the devil. Second only to Ivy and Vinca. You pull it. And will pull some shoots for a couple more years, unfortunately (but less every year). I'm on year 3 and only had to pull a couple shoots this spring.

Only one of my starter goldenrods came to bloom last year but there were mornings when I’d wake up to find 25 bees having spent the night resting on it. Love goldenrod.

Thanks PPs, going to try some of these!

+1 goldenrod and mountain mint both spread aggressively for me.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks PPs. Will try the cardboard under mulch.
What are some of the more aggressive natives that work well for this?

Monarda/bee balm comes to mind as does Obedient Plant. They're in the mint family and spreads just as quickly. Birds and pollinators love them. If you're near Springfield, I'd be happy to give you as much as you want of both.


https://www.bluestoneperennials.com/genus/monarda.html
https://www.prairienursery.com/obedient-plant-physostegia-virginiana.html

If the area is sunny, you should also consider a native goldenrod. They spread and support the most pollinators. You can find which native plants are suited to you area here: https://www.audubon.org/native-plants

Anonymous wrote:Thanks PPs. Will try the cardboard under mulch.
What are some of the more aggressive natives that work well for this?

Monarda/bee balm comes to mind as does Obedient Plant. They're in the mint family and spreads just as quickly. Birds and pollinators love them. If you're near Springfield, I'd be happy to give you as much as you want of both.


https://www.bluestoneperennials.com/genus/monarda.html
https://www.prairienursery.com/obedient-plant-physostegia-virginiana.html

Thanks PPs. Will try the cardboard under mulch.
What are some of the more aggressive natives that work well for this?

I was able to get rid of liriope just by digging, but the cardboard under the mulch is a good idea.

Daylilies have been a challenge in tight areas where it's hard to dig because they are invasive and apparently have deep roots.

I've found that it's important to plant more aggressive natives over areas where I'm trying to get rid of non-native invasives. The shyer plants can be placed elsewhere.

I moved into a house that had lots of liripoe as well. Used the cardboard/mulch trick and had 98% effectiveness. Just cut holes in the cardboard where we panted replacement plants.

We moved into a house that has a lot of daylilies and liriope in the yard. Any tips for removing them? I've dug them up spring and fall of last year in the hope of thinning them out but they're back and it looks like I barely made a dent. I would love to have space to plant more bird, butterfly and bee friendly plants.