Anonymous
04/01/2023 18:57
Subject: Re:Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
If you are sick of avoiding public spaces you should vote for Democrats up and down the ballot until things change. And perhaps join Everytown or Moms Demand.
You mean public spaces like the NYC subway? Public spaces like the streets of DC?
Anonymous
04/01/2023 18:55
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Anonymous wrote:I was pretty young when 9/11 happened but remember thinking a lot about the trade off between security and freedom back them. In light of the recent school shooting and having young children myself, I think I'm ready to take the leap to the side of security and would take some lessons from a country like Israel. If we're not going to do anything to limit access to assault weapons or it will take decades to get anything done, could we think about some stop gap measures? Why don't we provide a military presence (soldiers with assault weapons) at all schools and public spaces to protect our citizens, especially children? We do it at airports, why not other places?
I'm so sick of having to avoid public spaces and make an exit plan every time I go to the grocery store, mall, movie theater, etc. More than anything, I hate that my kids have to grow up in a country where this is going to be something they have to think about regularly.
We can talk about gun control all we want, but it's time to think of an actual interim solution with some political feasibility. I recognize my military option might not be one of them.
You think Israel regularly has the IDF guarding the schools?
If you are sick of avoiding public spaces you should vote for Democrats up and down the ballot until things change. And perhaps join Everytown or Moms Demand.
Anonymous
04/01/2023 17:25
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Folks, you need to understand that foreign nationals, right-wing nutcases, or just outright gas-lighters sometimes post here to float ideas they want to use as propaganda or 'fear' themes.
Stop feeding the trolls please.
I promise I'm not a troll, just a concerned parent who is starting to feel desperate that we, as a country, are never going to fix this problem.
How often do you vote for Republicans, would you say?
Anonymous
04/01/2023 17:25
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Anonymous wrote:Folks, you need to understand that foreign nationals, right-wing nutcases, or just outright gas-lighters sometimes post here to float ideas they want to use as propaganda or 'fear' themes.
Stop feeding the trolls please.
+1
This is an idiotic idea.
Anonymous
04/01/2023 17:22
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Folks, you need to understand that foreign nationals, right-wing nutcases, or just outright gas-lighters sometimes post here to float ideas they want to use as propaganda or 'fear' themes.
Stop feeding the trolls please.
I promise I'm not a troll, just a concerned parent who is starting to feel desperate that we, as a country, are never going to fix this problem.
Yes we can fix it. Roe was overturned. As horrifying as that may be, it is useful to look at how decades of organizing made that a reality. It is possible to get what we want.
Anonymous
04/01/2023 17:15
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Anonymous wrote:Folks, you need to understand that foreign nationals, right-wing nutcases, or just outright gas-lighters sometimes post here to float ideas they want to use as propaganda or 'fear' themes.
Stop feeding the trolls please.
I promise I'm not a troll, just a concerned parent who is starting to feel desperate that we, as a country, are never going to fix this problem.
Anonymous
04/01/2023 17:09
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Take a look at these statistics from Axios on may 26, 2022
Firearms were the leading cause of death for kids one and older for the first time in 2020, the most recent year for which CDC data is available.
Why it matters: The firearm death rate among children is steadily rising, as more kids are involved in gun-related homicides like Tuesday's mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, as well as suicides and accidents.
By the numbers: Nearly two-thirds of the 4,368 U.S. children up to age 19 who were killed by guns in 2020 were homicide victims, per the CDC. Motor vehicle crashes, formerly the leading cause of death for kids one and older, killed nearly 4,000 children.
Those are pathetic, sicko, ugly, shameful American stats.
Anonymous
04/01/2023 17:06
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Take a look at these statistics from Axios on may 26, 2022
Firearms were the leading cause of death for kids one and older for the first time in 2020, the most recent year for which CDC data is available.
Why it matters: The firearm death rate among children is steadily rising, as more kids are involved in gun-related homicides like Tuesday's mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, as well as suicides and accidents.
By the numbers: Nearly two-thirds of the 4,368 U.S. children up to age 19 who were killed by guns in 2020 were homicide victims, per the CDC. Motor vehicle crashes, formerly the leading cause of death for kids one and older, killed nearly 4,000 children.
Anonymous
04/01/2023 17:02
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Folks, you need to understand that foreign nationals, right-wing nutcases, or just outright gas-lighters sometimes post here to float ideas they want to use as propaganda or 'fear' themes.
Stop feeding the trolls please.
Stop feeding the trolls please.
Anonymous
04/01/2023 16:58
Subject: Re:Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
I think that sounds like a good idea in the interim.
For the future, I wonder if school construction could come into play, somehow? For example, we’ve moved to a warm weather climate and my kids’ elementary school has a back door in each classroom that leads to playgrounds or back of the school ball fields (not entirely sure why TBH). Front classroom doors lead to interior covered corridor (open air). If locked from the inside unless opened by a teacher, could those back doors be a deterrent? In the event of a school shooting the kids have many exit routes. I don’t know that this would specifically be helpful but presumably there could be some features or methods of construction that are helpful..
For the future, I wonder if school construction could come into play, somehow? For example, we’ve moved to a warm weather climate and my kids’ elementary school has a back door in each classroom that leads to playgrounds or back of the school ball fields (not entirely sure why TBH). Front classroom doors lead to interior covered corridor (open air). If locked from the inside unless opened by a teacher, could those back doors be a deterrent? In the event of a school shooting the kids have many exit routes. I don’t know that this would specifically be helpful but presumably there could be some features or methods of construction that are helpful..
Anonymous
04/01/2023 16:58
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Anonymous wrote:Statistically, this kind of event, while horrible, is very, very far down on the list of things any of us need to worry about or plan for. The fear you feel comes from inside your head, not from any significant danger to you or your kids.
Statistically this is flat out wrong.
Anonymous
04/01/2023 16:57
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Statistically, this kind of event, while horrible, is very, very far down on the list of things any of us need to worry about or plan for. The fear you feel comes from inside your head, not from any significant danger to you or your kids.
Anonymous
04/01/2023 16:55
Subject: Re:Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Posse commitatus
Anonymous
04/01/2023 16:54
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
Anonymous wrote:I was pretty young when 9/11 happened but remember thinking a lot about the trade off between security and freedom back them. In light of the recent school shooting and having young children myself, I think I'm ready to take the leap to the side of security and would take some lessons from a country like Israel. If we're not going to do anything to limit access to assault weapons or it will take decades to get anything done, could we think about some stop gap measures? Why don't we provide a military presence (soldiers with assault weapons) at all schools and public spaces to protect our citizens, especially children? We do it at airports, why not other places?
I'm so sick of having to avoid public spaces and make an exit plan every time I go to the grocery store, mall, movie theater, etc. More than anything, I hate that my kids have to grow up in a country where this is going to be something they have to think about regularly.
We can talk about gun control all we want, but it's time to think of an actual interim solution with some political feasibility. I recognize my military option might not be one of them.
Horrible idea. Organize, cut way back on the guns and the gun violence and teach our children how to use their power in a democracy to get what they want instead of giving into powerful lobbying groups.
Anonymous
04/01/2023 16:45
Subject: Stop Gap - Military Presence at Schools
I was pretty young when 9/11 happened but remember thinking a lot about the trade off between security and freedom back them. In light of the recent school shooting and having young children myself, I think I'm ready to take the leap to the side of security and would take some lessons from a country like Israel. If we're not going to do anything to limit access to assault weapons or it will take decades to get anything done, could we think about some stop gap measures? Why don't we provide a military presence (soldiers with assault weapons) at all schools and public spaces to protect our citizens, especially children? We do it at airports, why not other places?
I'm so sick of having to avoid public spaces and make an exit plan every time I go to the grocery store, mall, movie theater, etc. More than anything, I hate that my kids have to grow up in a country where this is going to be something they have to think about regularly.
We can talk about gun control all we want, but it's time to think of an actual interim solution with some political feasibility. I recognize my military option might not be one of them.
I'm so sick of having to avoid public spaces and make an exit plan every time I go to the grocery store, mall, movie theater, etc. More than anything, I hate that my kids have to grow up in a country where this is going to be something they have to think about regularly.
We can talk about gun control all we want, but it's time to think of an actual interim solution with some political feasibility. I recognize my military option might not be one of them.