Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 17:25     Subject: Re:Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
The ATF is not allowed to have searchable firearms records. Therefore, most tracing requests for crimes using guns to nowhere.

It’s absolutely insane. They are purposely hampering law enforcement and the criminals just laugh.

https://www.thetrace.org/2016/08/atf-non-searchable-databases/
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 17:17     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/


Aren’t straw purchases a federal felony that can net somebody ten years in prison and a quarter million dollar fine?


Straw buying is very difficult to investigate and prosecute. You need to establish intent that the seller willfully knew he was selling firearm(s) to someone who shouldn’t have that firearm or who will go on to resell it illegally.

ATF has also been decimated by GOP budget cuts.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 17:13     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
Stop and frisk. Focus less on point of sale and instead point of use.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 16:02     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/


Aren’t straw purchases a federal felony that can net somebody ten years in prison and a quarter million dollar fine?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 15:25     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
I’d love to see a cross-jurisdictional raid of the straw sellers & their brick & mortar shops by MPD. It would truly bring attention to the games being played by Red states governments to purposely flood Blue state with illegal firearms.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 10:39     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
They’ve got to get these illegal guns off the streets
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 22:17     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/


Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.


Are you kidding ? Blame the criminal who perpetrated the violent crime, not the politics of another jurisdiction.

Unfortunately, this is similar to the deadlty drug problem; the US blames Mexico & China, while China & Mexico point out that it is US users that drive the market.


Why can't I both be annoyed at DC for being lax on crime AND be mad at... Random red state for being lax on gun trafficking crime that also contributes to DC gun crime?


You can be mad at both. I thought that you were just blaming states with lax gun laws. Both are at fault.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 22:16     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/


Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.


Are you kidding ? Blame the criminal who perpetrated the violent crime, not the politics of another jurisdiction.

Unfortunately, this is similar to the deadlty drug problem; the US blames Mexico & China, while China & Mexico point out that it is US users that drive the market.


I blame both


Agree. That was my point.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 22:13     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/


Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.


Are you kidding ? Blame the criminal who perpetrated the violent crime, not the politics of another jurisdiction.

Unfortunately, this is similar to the deadlty drug problem; the US blames Mexico & China, while China & Mexico point out that it is US users that drive the market.


Why can't I both be annoyed at DC for being lax on crime AND be mad at... Random red state for being lax on gun trafficking crime that also contributes to DC gun crime?
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 22:07     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/


Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.


Are you kidding ? Blame the criminal who perpetrated the violent crime, not the politics of another jurisdiction.

Unfortunately, this is similar to the deadlty drug problem; the US blames Mexico & China, while China & Mexico point out that it is US users that drive the market.


I blame both
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 22:05     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/


Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.


Are you kidding ? Blame the criminal who perpetrated the violent crime, not the politics of another jurisdiction.

Unfortunately, this is similar to the deadlty drug problem; the US blames Mexico & China, while China & Mexico point out that it is US users that drive the market.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 22:01     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
Anonymous wrote:DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/


Effin red states. The hypocrisy of the GOP that loves to point out Democrat city crime rates while ironically, red states' inability to crack down on straw purchase trafficking contributes considerably to democratic city gun crime.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 21:45     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
DC: “But no longer is law enforcement seeing the majority of illegal firearms coming from Virginia. Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives began firearms examinations in place of D.C.’s Department of Forensic Sciences 10 months ago, Geldart said, they’ve recorded a change in the source.

“Right now, primarily what we’re seeing are guns that are coming in from Georgia and North Carolina. Those are the two primary areas, and, of course, we’re working with the ATF and they’re working with the states and all of that to see how we start to curb some of that,” Geldart said.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/01/dcs-geldart-illegal-guns-coming-into-district-from-southern-states/

Baltimore: “More than 1,000 crime guns recovered in 2019 traced back to Virginia alone. Another 2,500-plus came from other jurisdictions, including Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, West Virginia, and even as far away as Texas.”
https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/iron-pipeline-gun-violence-out-of-state-traffickers/
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 21:08     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
Guns in NJ mainly come from VA, or they used to.

I imagine it is (or was) the same in DC.
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2023 20:57     Subject: Study on where DC criminals source illegal guns?
I know research in other cities shows that guns are primarily accessed from straw purchases in less restrictive gun law states. Are there any studies or data on this specific to recovered guns in DC?