Anonymous wrote:Also the methodology is skewed downwards for medical careers and colleges that excel in premed (Harvard brown etc) since your 3-yr post-MD salary as a resident physician is likely $50k for multiple years until training is fully over. So that lowers the average earnings. A better dataset would take 20-year earnings or similar and then compare.

Do you have actual data for your speculation like the percentage of students admitted to medical schools comparing to schools like Duke Stanford Princeton?

Also the methodology is skewed downwards for medical careers and colleges that excel in premed (Harvard brown etc) since your 3-yr post-MD salary as a resident physician is likely $50k for multiple years until training is fully over. So that lowers the average earnings. A better dataset would take 20-year earnings or similar and then compare.

Anonymous wrote:How are they calculating in fulfillment and job satisfaction? Oh wait.

That's a very subjective area, but reward contributes to fulfillment and job satisfaction.

You can use the data/information however you need.

Anonymous wrote:How are they calculating in fulfillment and job satisfaction? Oh wait.

Start a separate thread with rankings for that, then.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that GWU is not even a top 50 school yet is number 27 on the list.

Because many GWU grads stay in DC or go to NYC, high COL areas. This isn't hard to understand.

This is mainly an issue of where grads tend to live, the number of high early earning majors like engineering there are, and whether earnings are delayed by graduate school. For some schools the proportion of students coming from wealthy well-connected families also really influences the average--they are set up for success regardless of their school.

It makes no sense to generically rank on this criteria IMO--I think the info is good to have about schools but too much of it is about irrelevant factors to make the rankings make sense. I would rather compare major to major adjusted for COL, but I know that's too much to ask.

As in the OP's post, it eliminates wealthy effect to a certain level.
The site actually has figures by majors or areas of study.

Anonymous wrote:How are they calculating in fulfillment and job satisfaction? Oh wait.

Most people need to make a living first and foremost.

Many of these salaries are terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:So how does this work. I went to GW but then law school. Assume it will look at my lawyer salary or will I be excluded because GW is not my terminal degree?

If you graduated from college in 4 years and after that also graduated from law schools in 3 years, then it looked at your lawyer salary into 3 years of your practice.

Ok but I am making money from my law degree not my GW degree.

Anonymous wrote:So how does this work. I went to GW but then law school. Assume it will look at my lawyer salary or will I be excluded because GW is not my terminal degree?

If you graduated from college in 4 years and after that also graduated from law schools in 3 years, then it looked at your lawyer salary into 3 years of your practice.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that GWU is not even a top 50 school yet is number 27 on the list.

Because many GWU grads stay in DC or go to NYC, high COL areas. This isn't hard to understand.

This is mainly an issue of where grads tend to live, the number of high early earning majors like engineering there are, and whether earnings are delayed by graduate school. For some schools the proportion of students coming from wealthy well-connected families also really influences the average--they are set up for success regardless of their school.

It makes no sense to generically rank on this criteria IMO--I think the info is good to have about schools but too much of it is about irrelevant factors to make the rankings make sense. I would rather compare major to major adjusted for COL, but I know that's too much to ask.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that GWU is not even a top 50 school yet is number 27 on the list.

Because many GWU grads stay in DC or go to NYC, high COL areas. This isn't hard to understand.

And the same is true in reverse. Shockingly, small-town Georgia and Wisconsin residents who return to their hometowns make less than they would in DC. May have a better quality of life, though, and it has nothing to do with the outcomes for DMV students who attend those schools.

So how does this work. I went to GW but then law school. Assume it will look at my lawyer salary or will I be excluded because GW is not my terminal degree?

How are they calculating in fulfillment and job satisfaction? Oh wait.

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that GWU is not even a top 50 school yet is number 27 on the list.

Because many GWU grads stay in DC or go to NYC, high COL areas. This isn't hard to understand.

Interesting that GWU is not even a top 50 school yet is number 27 on the list.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/
The Obama administration initiated this effort with the Department of Education due to so much bullshit in college business.

Rich people can skew the income data a lot with all kinds of advantages.
Many of the so-called elite schools have a big portion of these rich people.
The data is collected via IRS and loan servicing companies for students who had any sort of federal aid - grant, loans, etc.
Hence it covers most of the low income to middle class real people, and eliminates much of the rich people effect.

It's median income for ten-year-out from the beginning of college.
Of course no ranking or information is perfect and you shouldn't make a decision based on one factor, but this should be important information unless you are a rich trust fund kid.

Students don't necessarily stay in the area of the school they attended, but you can also consider COL(I don't think it's reflected in the data) and other factors.
If you are determined to go law school, medical school or grad school right after, then it's probably less important.
Some of the schools are highly tech oriented and some are very specialized.
I looked at mostly T100 schools, there could be errors, then please make correctiond.

1 CalTech: $112,166
2 MIT: $111,222
3 UPenn: $103,246
4 CMU: $99,998
5 Stevens IT: $98,159
6 Stanford: $97,798
7 Georgetown: $96,375
8 Princeton: $95,689
9 Lehigh: $95,033
10 RPI: $93,456
11 Santa Clara: $93,291
12 Duke: $93,115
13 BC: $93,021
14 Dartmouth: $91,627
15 Cornell: $91,176
16 Villanova: $90,613
17 Colorado S.Mines $90,060
18 Columbia: $89,871
19 Worcester: $89,405
20 ND: $88,962
21 Yale: $88,655
22 GIT: $88,196
23 Harvard: $84,918
24 USC: $83,426
25 WashU: $82,732
26 JH: $83,287
27 George Washington: $80,606
28 UCB: $80,364
29 NJIT: $80,043
30 Northwestern: $80,033
31 Vanderbilt: $79,872
32 Northeastern: $79,786
33 Brown: $78,943
34 CaseW: $78,330
35 Rice: $77,683
36 UVA: $77,048
37 UChicago: $76,730
38 NYU: $76,040
39 UMich: $75,842
40 BU: $75,642
41 WF: $74,968
42vU San Diego: $74,816
43 UCSD: $74,771
44 Fordham: $74578
45 UCLA: $73744
46 VA Tech: $73159
47 Binghamton: $72980
48 Marquette$72,489
49 Connecticut: $72,460
50 Emory: $72,364


T50 schools didn't make T50 for salary
UIUC: $71539
Brandeis: $70,327
UCD: $69766
URochester: $68,335
UTAustin: $67,839
Tufts: $67,122
UCSB: $66.491
Wisconsin Madison: $65,213
W&M $6,4723
UF: $64,463
UNC: $61,915
UGeorgia: $59,769
Tulane: $56,999
Ohio: $55,332