Anonymous wrote:I would really consider a Wait List as a soft rejection. If you look at Common Data Sets for most schools, they usually have very low movement (if any) from WL to acceptance. Lat year BU had over 8,000 students accept a spot on the WL and only 1 was offered. Babson placed several on the WL last year and offered zero spots, etc., etc.

Virginia Tech had 7587 on their waitlist and accepted 2458. Some people are on waitlists where it is meaningful to wait.

I would really consider a Wait List as a soft rejection. If you look at Common Data Sets for most schools, they usually have very low movement (if any) from WL to acceptance. Lat year BU had over 8,000 students accept a spot on the WL and only 1 was offered. Babson placed several on the WL last year and offered zero spots, etc., etc.

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Anonymous wrote:There are several students waitlisted. Any idea when they will clear as May 1 is the deadline for enrolling.

How DYK that several students are WLed? FWIW, WLs operate fairly similarly regardless if they are for preschool or college: the more competitive/desired the school, the less likely the list will move. Most professionals I know advise to fall in love with the place that loves you. Your DC may end up being surprised with an admit, but the odds are that it will not happen.

GL to your DC(s)!

Well duh. Tons of kids being put on waitlists these days, due to everyone applying to more schools than before, often test optional - it means they punched above their weight and it didn’t work out.

Getting on WL doesn’t mean they punched above their weight, it means they were qualified but didn’t win the admissions lottery. Punched above weight would have just been flat-out denied.

Sorry, no. They would have been accepted if the college had really wanted them. I understand you're trying to rationalize a waitlist situation, but being waitlisted means the student was not quite interesting enough, and in 99% (sometimes 99.99%) of cases, it's a rejection.

My senior has been deferred and rejected from his reach schools, so I know that feels like. But he was also offered merit aid at lower tier colleges. Those are the colleges who really want him. Best to focus on the colleges who want your kid.

No, with single digit acceptance rates, being Waitlisted means they were qualified and the school wants them, but there is NOT space. If you were not a good candidate, they would have rejected you. There are 1600-2000 spaces at many of these schools. 50%+ filled with ED. That leaves 800-1000 spots for EA/RD. But they have 40K+ applications. So yes, 99.999% of the time WL becomes a rejection, but it still means the college wanted them. There just isn't enough space.

However, I encouraged my kid to move on from their WL and get excited about the schools that wanted them in March/April.

Look at CDS to see how many students were accepted off waitlist. If really small, treat it as a rejection. If a miracle happens you change plans then but otherwise move on.

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Anonymous wrote:There are several students waitlisted. Any idea when they will clear as May 1 is the deadline for enrolling.

How DYK that several students are WLed? FWIW, WLs operate fairly similarly regardless if they are for preschool or college: the more competitive/desired the school, the less likely the list will move. Most professionals I know advise to fall in love with the place that loves you. Your DC may end up being surprised with an admit, but the odds are that it will not happen.

GL to your DC(s)!

Not accurate. Look at the common data set for the school. There are schools that take literally thousands off the WL and schools that don't take any. Some schools use WL for enrollment management more than others--they are very concerned about over-enrollment so they under-accept and then go quickly to WL. Other schools can cut it closer to their desired yield because if they overenroll they have some options for housing if need be. So your best information is the Common Data Set for the school you are waiting on. Note, look at a few years to get a sense of the pattern--some schools waitlist a lot of students one year because they over-enrolled the year prior.

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Anonymous wrote:There are several students waitlisted. Any idea when they will clear as May 1 is the deadline for enrolling.

How DYK that several students are WLed? FWIW, WLs operate fairly similarly regardless if they are for preschool or college: the more competitive/desired the school, the less likely the list will move. Most professionals I know advise to fall in love with the place that loves you. Your DC may end up being surprised with an admit, but the odds are that it will not happen.

GL to your DC(s)!

Well duh. Tons of kids being put on waitlists these days, due to everyone applying to more schools than before, often test optional - it means they punched above their weight and it didn’t work out.

Getting on WL doesn’t mean they punched above their weight, it means they were qualified but didn’t win the admissions lottery. Punched above weight would have just been flat-out denied.

NP. Agreed. It's about institutional priorities. If your kid is WL, they are a good fit, not punching above their weight. If the college had more room, they would tale them, but w/ limitations, they went w/ other students to create the class.

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Anonymous wrote:There are several students waitlisted. Any idea when they will clear as May 1 is the deadline for enrolling.

How DYK that several students are WLed? FWIW, WLs operate fairly similarly regardless if they are for preschool or college: the more competitive/desired the school, the less likely the list will move. Most professionals I know advise to fall in love with the place that loves you. Your DC may end up being surprised with an admit, but the odds are that it will not happen.

GL to your DC(s)!

Well duh. Tons of kids being put on waitlists these days, due to everyone applying to more schools than before, often test optional - it means they punched above their weight and it didn’t work out.

Getting on WL doesn’t mean they punched above their weight, it means they were qualified but didn’t win the admissions lottery. Punched above weight would have just been flat-out denied.

Sorry, no. They would have been accepted if the college had really wanted them. I understand you're trying to rationalize a waitlist situation, but being waitlisted means the student was not quite interesting enough, and in 99% (sometimes 99.99%) of cases, it's a rejection.

My senior has been deferred and rejected from his reach schools, so I know that feels like. But he was also offered merit aid at lower tier colleges. Those are the colleges who really want him. Best to focus on the colleges who want your kid.

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Anonymous wrote:There are several students waitlisted. Any idea when they will clear as May 1 is the deadline for enrolling.

How DYK that several students are WLed? FWIW, WLs operate fairly similarly regardless if they are for preschool or college: the more competitive/desired the school, the less likely the list will move. Most professionals I know advise to fall in love with the place that loves you. Your DC may end up being surprised with an admit, but the odds are that it will not happen.

GL to your DC(s)!

Well duh. Tons of kids being put on waitlists these days, due to everyone applying to more schools than before, often test optional - it means they punched above their weight and it didn’t work out.

Getting on WL doesn’t mean they punched above their weight, it means they were qualified but didn’t win the admissions lottery. Punched above weight would have just been flat-out denied.

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Anonymous wrote:There are several students waitlisted. Any idea when they will clear as May 1 is the deadline for enrolling.

How DYK that several students are WLed? FWIW, WLs operate fairly similarly regardless if they are for preschool or college: the more competitive/desired the school, the less likely the list will move. Most professionals I know advise to fall in love with the place that loves you. Your DC may end up being surprised with an admit, but the odds are that it will not happen.

GL to your DC(s)!

Well duh. Tons of kids being put on waitlists these days, due to everyone applying to more schools than before, often test optional - it means they punched above their weight and it didn’t work out.

Funny when you use "duh" as an attempt to make another poster look stupid. Doesn't work--guess who looks stoopid ?

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Anonymous wrote:There are several students waitlisted. Any idea when they will clear as May 1 is the deadline for enrolling.

How DYK that several students are WLed? FWIW, WLs operate fairly similarly regardless if they are for preschool or college: the more competitive/desired the school, the less likely the list will move. Most professionals I know advise to fall in love with the place that loves you. Your DC may end up being surprised with an admit, but the odds are that it will not happen.

GL to your DC(s)!

Well duh. Tons of kids being put on waitlists these days, due to everyone applying to more schools than before, often test optional - it means they punched above their weight and it didn’t work out.

Anonymous wrote:There are several students waitlisted. Any idea when they will clear as May 1 is the deadline for enrolling.

How DYK that several students are WLed? FWIW, WLs operate fairly similarly regardless if they are for preschool or college: the more competitive/desired the school, the less likely the list will move. Most professionals I know advise to fall in love with the place that loves you. Your DC may end up being surprised with an admit, but the odds are that it will not happen.

GL to your DC(s)!

It can happen anywhere between May 2 and mid-summer. Most likely in May or early June.

Look at CDS to see if that school typically goes to the WL.

Students typically find out after the May 1st deadline unless a school's yield is atrocious compared to normal. They enroll on May 1st somewhere and then find out in May if schools are going to their waitlist and if they're chosen. But I wouldn't hold your breath. Sometimes waitlist acceptances can be <10 students.

There are several students waitlisted. Any idea when they will clear as May 1 is the deadline for enrolling.