Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers are leaving in droves. As a parent who has had a long term sub for classroom teacher (DD) all year and a clueless teacher resident for SpEd (DS) all year, I am more than eager to entertain 4 day weeks if it means that young people might want to become teachers again.

But what if it *also* causes young people, who are unlikely to become SAHPs, to enroll their kids in private school in much larger numbers, correspondingly decreasing their incentive to support public school funding?

Moving to a 4 day school week is cutting off your nose to spite your face. The only people that benefit are those that will only be affected by the public school system for a few more years.

Perhaps you aren't paying attention...young people are not going into education and people are retiring as soon as they can. It is not sustainable. It's already happening, there are many many classrooms that are and will not be staffed in the future. There are students who are not receiving special education services because there is currently no one to provide those services. What about those who cant afford the private schools? Four day work weeks are a good incentive for teachers, it may help recruit and retain them to avoid burnout.

Anonymous wrote:Teachers are leaving in droves. As a parent who has had a long term sub for classroom teacher (DD) all year and a clueless teacher resident for SpEd (DS) all year, I am more than eager to entertain 4 day weeks if it means that young people might want to become teachers again.

But what if it *also* causes young people, who are unlikely to become SAHPs, to enroll their kids in private school in much larger numbers, correspondingly decreasing their incentive to support public school funding?

Moving to a 4 day school week is cutting off your nose to spite your face. The only people that benefit are those that will only be affected by the public school system for a few more years.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just go back to early release Mondays.

They never should have taken that away to begin with. They did it because of selfish parents who view school as free daycare. The same type of parents who are causing all of the current problems. Some people should truly never have kids.

You mean parents who have to work to pay their bills and live in the area? Or the parents who work multiple jobs to afford living in the area and provide for their kids? Based on your comment, the only people who should have kids are people who can afford after school care or one parent who can stay at home.

I was in school in the 80’s, we went 5 days a week and had an early release day once a month. The idea that kids attend school 5 days a week for a full day is not exactly new or novel.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should just go back to early release Mondays.

They never should have taken that away to begin with. They did it because of selfish parents who view school as free daycare. The same type of parents who are causing all of the current problems. Some people should truly never have kids.

School as daycare keeps the economy going. That’s the big picture.

Anonymous wrote:They should just go back to early release Mondays.

They never should have taken that away to begin with. They did it because of selfish parents who view school as free daycare. The same type of parents who are causing all of the current problems. Some people should truly never have kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want this. I feel like it’s the thing that could keep me teaching until retirement age.

Same! It would take me down to a 5-day work week from my usual 6 or 7. I love the idea of having more time with my family.

My fear is that they would just fill that 5th day with requirements, meaning I still wouldn’t have time to get my work done.

I think the idea is that we’d be off that day

Teachers are leaving in droves. As a parent who has had a long term sub for classroom teacher (DD) all year and a clueless teacher resident for SpEd (DS) all year, I am more than eager to entertain 4 day weeks if it means that young people might want to become teachers again.

If gatehouse balancing impacts may have on kids, tough choices b/c from that above site, links to article about students test scores lower with 4 day, but if becomes no teachers to even teach 4 days….

They should just go back to early release Mondays.

Anonymous wrote:I want this. I feel like it’s the thing that could keep me teaching until retirement age.

Same! It would take me down to a 5-day work week from my usual 6 or 7. I love the idea of having more time with my family.

My fear is that they would just fill that 5th day with requirements, meaning I still wouldn’t have time to get my work done.

https://health.oregonstate.edu/hallie-ford/heal/policy/four-day-school-week is study of schools in US with 4-day weeks- says 90% in rural areas

I want this. I feel like it’s the thing that could keep me teaching until retirement age.

I’m a DCPS teacher and filled out the survey. Tons of questions about how much I would like different kinds of flexibility, but nowhere to say I didn’t think it was realistic. Would I like a work from home day when my kid is sick? Of course! Do I think it’s possible? Of course not. I’m very much looking forward to them coming back after spending a few million studying it with a report that says it costs too many millions to implement. I’d settle for not needing a doctor’s note to take two hours off in the middle of the morning.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/10/four-day-school-week-shortages/

Is this was One Fairfax is moving towards? We already have the fewest 5 day school weeks out of any school district in the nation? Will the Unions use collaborative bargaining to get this?[b]

Did you even read the article you posted? Lmao.

Goddamn it says right in the article:

From the OP's own source they clearly didn't read... wrote:
Teachers unions and some state officials are skeptical.

Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, complained that such policies could be used as a rationale to avoid increased funding for schools and raising teacher pay.

“A shortened workweek is not a ‘magic pill’ to solve the problem of educator shortages and, in some cases, could be wielded as an excuse by administrators not to invest in schools,” she said in an email. “We risk cutting our way to lower support with the same expectations.”

Stop fear mongering against unions and scapegoating teachers for everything christ

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/10/four-day-school-week-shortages/

Is this was One Fairfax is moving towards? We already have the fewest 5 day school weeks out of any school district in the nation? Will the Unions use collaborative bargaining to get this?