Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 12:13     Subject: Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, college admissions-wise it basically just frees up an additional class slot in 12th grade (everything else is just shifted forward 1 year). If you're going to take an additional AP class in 12th, technically that could increase GPA some tiny fraction by adding an additional 5 into the mix (rather than a 4 or more likely a 4.5) but since it's 12th it won't have much impact before decisions are made. And you want to ensure that class in 12th is something that supports the "took the most rigorous course load possible" narrative. But really, we're talking pretty negligible delta here, this isn't going to be the thing that tips the scales for a kid to get admit vs. WL/reject.

I'd focus more on the school/academic experience. If your kid is really sooooooo bored in class that it's diminishing their interest in math AND you think that one academic year speedup is the silver bullet to resolve this concern, I suppose, go ahead... but with the caveat that you're aware of the warnings that plenty of kids who do this who end up in a bad spot later on in advanced math (when their fundamentals aren't as strong as they should be). Just because a kid "can" handle it right now doesn't mean they "should".


I agree with this first paragraph. This is almost always the trajectory, although a 12th grader with an interest in math could double up. Or use that free period to take a DE class, or work or do their college apps.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 12:09     Subject: Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, college admissions-wise it basically just frees up an additional class slot in 12th grade (everything else is just shifted forward 1 year). If you're going to take an additional AP class in 12th, technically that could increase GPA some tiny fraction by adding an additional 5 into the mix (rather than a 4 or more likely a 4.5) but since it's 12th it won't have much impact before decisions are made. And you want to ensure that class in 12th is something that supports the "took the most rigorous course load possible" narrative. But really, we're talking pretty negligible delta here, this isn't going to be the thing that tips the scales for a kid to get admit vs. WL/reject.

I'd focus more on the school/academic experience. If your kid is really sooooooo bored in class that it's diminishing their interest in math AND you think that one academic year speedup is the silver bullet to resolve this concern, I suppose, go ahead... but with the caveat that you're aware of the warnings that plenty of kids who do this who end up in a bad spot later on in advanced math (when their fundamentals aren't as strong as they should be). Just because a kid "can" handle it right now doesn't mean they "should".


+1 lots of accelerated math students start hating math when it gets too hard too fast. Be careful because it backfires for many.


+1
DS took geometry over the summer .. dropped the class after he found it to be hard. Now he HATES geometry. Please think twice before enrolling


OP here, I am worries too and actually prefer him to take some fun activities over the summer, but he insisted and said he think he can handle it…. It is because of his circle of friends mostly plan to take it. No joke it is 6 weeks with 6 hours daily worth of studying. He might change his mind .. I dont know


If he can’t handle that he’ll never handle college.


LOL are you seriously comparing a MS student's capacity to a college student's capacity?
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 18:37     Subject: Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, college admissions-wise it basically just frees up an additional class slot in 12th grade (everything else is just shifted forward 1 year). If you're going to take an additional AP class in 12th, technically that could increase GPA some tiny fraction by adding an additional 5 into the mix (rather than a 4 or more likely a 4.5) but since it's 12th it won't have much impact before decisions are made. And you want to ensure that class in 12th is something that supports the "took the most rigorous course load possible" narrative. But really, we're talking pretty negligible delta here, this isn't going to be the thing that tips the scales for a kid to get admit vs. WL/reject.

I'd focus more on the school/academic experience. If your kid is really sooooooo bored in class that it's diminishing their interest in math AND you think that one academic year speedup is the silver bullet to resolve this concern, I suppose, go ahead... but with the caveat that you're aware of the warnings that plenty of kids who do this who end up in a bad spot later on in advanced math (when their fundamentals aren't as strong as they should be). Just because a kid "can" handle it right now doesn't mean they "should".


+1 lots of accelerated math students start hating math when it gets too hard too fast. Be careful because it backfires for many.


+1
DS took geometry over the summer .. dropped the class after he found it to be hard. Now he HATES geometry. Please think twice before enrolling


OP here, I am worries too and actually prefer him to take some fun activities over the summer, but he insisted and said he think he can handle it…. It is because of his circle of friends mostly plan to take it. No joke it is 6 weeks with 6 hours daily worth of studying. He might change his mind .. I dont know


If he can’t handle that he’ll never handle college.


Seriously? Most college classes meet 3-4 hours a week with 3-4 hours of home work a week for a period of 4 months. Summer classes are condensed but that is a different story. And if you plan you schedule right you don’t need to take summer classes.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 17:41     Subject: Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, college admissions-wise it basically just frees up an additional class slot in 12th grade (everything else is just shifted forward 1 year). If you're going to take an additional AP class in 12th, technically that could increase GPA some tiny fraction by adding an additional 5 into the mix (rather than a 4 or more likely a 4.5) but since it's 12th it won't have much impact before decisions are made. And you want to ensure that class in 12th is something that supports the "took the most rigorous course load possible" narrative. But really, we're talking pretty negligible delta here, this isn't going to be the thing that tips the scales for a kid to get admit vs. WL/reject.

I'd focus more on the school/academic experience. If your kid is really sooooooo bored in class that it's diminishing their interest in math AND you think that one academic year speedup is the silver bullet to resolve this concern, I suppose, go ahead... but with the caveat that you're aware of the warnings that plenty of kids who do this who end up in a bad spot later on in advanced math (when their fundamentals aren't as strong as they should be). Just because a kid "can" handle it right now doesn't mean they "should".


+1 lots of accelerated math students start hating math when it gets too hard too fast. Be careful because it backfires for many.


+1
DS took geometry over the summer .. dropped the class after he found it to be hard. Now he HATES geometry. Please think twice before enrolling


OP here, I am worries too and actually prefer him to take some fun activities over the summer, but he insisted and said he think he can handle it…. It is because of his circle of friends mostly plan to take it. No joke it is 6 weeks with 6 hours daily worth of studying. He might change his mind .. I dont know


If he can’t handle that he’ll never handle college.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 17:36     Subject: Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, college admissions-wise it basically just frees up an additional class slot in 12th grade (everything else is just shifted forward 1 year). If you're going to take an additional AP class in 12th, technically that could increase GPA some tiny fraction by adding an additional 5 into the mix (rather than a 4 or more likely a 4.5) but since it's 12th it won't have much impact before decisions are made. And you want to ensure that class in 12th is something that supports the "took the most rigorous course load possible" narrative. But really, we're talking pretty negligible delta here, this isn't going to be the thing that tips the scales for a kid to get admit vs. WL/reject.

I'd focus more on the school/academic experience. If your kid is really sooooooo bored in class that it's diminishing their interest in math AND you think that one academic year speedup is the silver bullet to resolve this concern, I suppose, go ahead... but with the caveat that you're aware of the warnings that plenty of kids who do this who end up in a bad spot later on in advanced math (when their fundamentals aren't as strong as they should be). Just because a kid "can" handle it right now doesn't mean they "should".


+1 lots of accelerated math students start hating math when it gets too hard too fast. Be careful because it backfires for many.


+1
DS took geometry over the summer .. dropped the class after he found it to be hard. Now he HATES geometry. Please think twice before enrolling


OP here, I am worries too and actually prefer him to take some fun activities over the summer, but he insisted and said he think he can handle it…. It is because of his circle of friends mostly plan to take it. No joke it is 6 weeks with 6 hours daily worth of studying. He might change his mind .. I dont know
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 16:43     Subject: Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, college admissions-wise it basically just frees up an additional class slot in 12th grade (everything else is just shifted forward 1 year). If you're going to take an additional AP class in 12th, technically that could increase GPA some tiny fraction by adding an additional 5 into the mix (rather than a 4 or more likely a 4.5) but since it's 12th it won't have much impact before decisions are made. And you want to ensure that class in 12th is something that supports the "took the most rigorous course load possible" narrative. But really, we're talking pretty negligible delta here, this isn't going to be the thing that tips the scales for a kid to get admit vs. WL/reject.

I'd focus more on the school/academic experience. If your kid is really sooooooo bored in class that it's diminishing their interest in math AND you think that one academic year speedup is the silver bullet to resolve this concern, I suppose, go ahead... but with the caveat that you're aware of the warnings that plenty of kids who do this who end up in a bad spot later on in advanced math (when their fundamentals aren't as strong as they should be). Just because a kid "can" handle it right now doesn't mean they "should".


+1 lots of accelerated math students start hating math when it gets too hard too fast. Be careful because it backfires for many.


+1
DS took geometry over the summer .. dropped the class after he found it to be hard. Now he HATES geometry. Please think twice before enrolling
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 11:50     Subject: Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, college admissions-wise it basically just frees up an additional class slot in 12th grade (everything else is just shifted forward 1 year). If you're going to take an additional AP class in 12th, technically that could increase GPA some tiny fraction by adding an additional 5 into the mix (rather than a 4 or more likely a 4.5) but since it's 12th it won't have much impact before decisions are made. And you want to ensure that class in 12th is something that supports the "took the most rigorous course load possible" narrative. But really, we're talking pretty negligible delta here, this isn't going to be the thing that tips the scales for a kid to get admit vs. WL/reject.

I'd focus more on the school/academic experience. If your kid is really sooooooo bored in class that it's diminishing their interest in math AND you think that one academic year speedup is the silver bullet to resolve this concern, I suppose, go ahead... but with the caveat that you're aware of the warnings that plenty of kids who do this who end up in a bad spot later on in advanced math (when their fundamentals aren't as strong as they should be). Just because a kid "can" handle it right now doesn't mean they "should".


+1 lots of accelerated math students start hating math when it gets too hard too fast. Be careful because it backfires for many.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 01:12     Subject: Summer Geometry
Yeah, college admissions-wise it basically just frees up an additional class slot in 12th grade (everything else is just shifted forward 1 year). If you're going to take an additional AP class in 12th, technically that could increase GPA some tiny fraction by adding an additional 5 into the mix (rather than a 4 or more likely a 4.5) but since it's 12th it won't have much impact before decisions are made. And you want to ensure that class in 12th is something that supports the "took the most rigorous course load possible" narrative. But really, we're talking pretty negligible delta here, this isn't going to be the thing that tips the scales for a kid to get admit vs. WL/reject.

I'd focus more on the school/academic experience. If your kid is really sooooooo bored in class that it's diminishing their interest in math AND you think that one academic year speedup is the silver bullet to resolve this concern, I suppose, go ahead... but with the caveat that you're aware of the warnings that plenty of kids who do this who end up in a bad spot later on in advanced math (when their fundamentals aren't as strong as they should be). Just because a kid "can" handle it right now doesn't mean they "should".
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2023 22:10     Subject: Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:We are in same situation, DC wants to take the course and can manage however I can't figure out what is the advantage in doing so?

1. Does it help TJ admission? Will it increase GPA? TJ admission policy states 7th and 8th grade(1st semester) grades to caculate GPA
2. Does it help boost GPA in college?

Thanks!


No, it does nothing for getting into TJ.

GPA wise, the number of 4.0’s or 4.5’s you get doesn’t increase the average GPA, it’s not like you get a bump for taking 6 or 7 years of math.

You could be making things harder by adding additional math classes that are harder once kids get past Calculus.

You could be breezing through Geometry and end up not really understanding the foundations of Geometry and that could cause issues in later classes.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2023 21:23     Subject: Summer Geometry
We are in same situation, DC wants to take the course and can manage however I can't figure out what is the advantage in doing so?

1. Does it help TJ admission? Will it increase GPA? TJ admission policy states 7th and 8th grade(1st semester) grades to caculate GPA
2. Does it help boost GPA in college?

Thanks!
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2023 04:32     Subject: Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:My experience is that Summer Geometry is generally being discouraged by schools, even for kids who can "handle it". Progressing through the math curriculum "faster" isn't necessarily "better", and in many cases seems to have had a negative impact on students when they hit higher math in late-HS or college (which is why the schools are discouraging it).


My experience is that the teachers hate it when keeps accelerate outside of their grade level and yet don’t understand when you tell them your kid is bored in their class.

I’m also annoyed that parents are asking about this on Facebook now like …
Seriously? You don’t know if your kid can handle it?

If your kid has perfect scores on their SOLs and IOWA and Algebra I honors and can read a math textbook like a comic strip: go for it. Otherwise, don’t.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2023 17:18     Subject: Summer Geometry
My experience is that Summer Geometry is generally being discouraged by schools, even for kids who can "handle it". Progressing through the math curriculum "faster" isn't necessarily "better", and in many cases seems to have had a negative impact on students when they hit higher math in late-HS or college (which is why the schools are discouraging it).
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2023 07:10     Subject: Re:Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:You can see summer class schedule here

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/summer-learning/online-programs


Thank you!
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2023 06:41     Subject: Re:Summer Geometry
You can see summer class schedule here

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/summer-learning/online-programs
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2023 16:36     Subject: Summer Geometry
Anybody know the dates/time and for how long of 2023 Summer Geometry? Or at what weeks it is usually held (i.e beginning /mid/end of summer break). While I am trying to planning ahead for summer activities (sports, camp, travel) my 7th grader insist he wants to take summer geometry and his school has not provided any information yet. I am trying to avoid overlapping schedule. Thanks!