Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 15:18     Subject: AP Test Passage By High School
Anonymous wrote:I would definitely credit kids for good Spanish. Absolutely.

That said, if I knew that any Roosevelt or CHEC or Eastern students were getting 4s in Physics it would really impress me.


First of all, the national rate for a 5 in AP Physics 1 is less than 10%.
It is the lowest scoring AP exam. Second of all, Roosevelt, CHEC, Eastern do not even offer AP Physics or AP Chemistry so I don’t think you will be seeing any 4s in these subjects
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 13:54     Subject: AP Test Passage By High School
Anonymous wrote:I am curious about why Black and Brown student's pass rate is much lower than their white and Asian counterparts.



This has been discussed a lot here on DCUM. Please search the archives. It doesn’t need to get discussed again.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 13:50     Subject: AP Test Passage By High School
I am curious about why Black and Brown student's pass rate is much lower than their white and Asian counterparts.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 12:58     Subject: AP Test Passage By High School
Anonymous wrote:I would definitely credit kids for good Spanish. Absolutely.

That said, if I knew that any Roosevelt or CHEC or Eastern students were getting 4s in Physics it would really impress me.


Middle schoolers, absolutely. But high school students who are native speakers? 83%, of native speakers for the Spanish language exam get at least a 3.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 12:53     Subject: Re:AP Test Passage By High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is really fascinating data. I think it might give you insight on schools that are perhaps up and coming - an early indicator.

So there's the obvious, plenty of good scores, from Wilson, Walls, Banneker. And even a decent amount from Oyster-Adams, which is surprising (doesn't that only go through 8th grade? They've got 8th graders taking AP tests??)

Then you got the zero or close to it contingent - Anacostia, Ballou, Dunbar, Eastern, Phelps, Ron Brown, Woodson. The bottom line is, if your kid has the skills to get decent scores on a couple AP tests, they are NOT going to fit in there - they will have NO kids at their level. For most parents, that is not an option.

But this gives a window into other options. Ellington, CHEC, McKinley - they may not be at the numbers that Wilson, Walls, and Banneker have, but they're over 50. That means there's a solid cohort of kids there taking and doing well at AP exams. This would make me feel much better about sending my kid, who will be taking and probably doing well at AP tests, to one of these schools - they'll have real AP classes with other students who are at AP level, and probably in a variety of subjects.

Cardozo, Coolidge, Roosevelt - these numbers are small (in the teens) but that's really different than 0-2. You're approaching a number where you could have some real AP classes. These numbers would make me bet on, for example, Roosevelt over Dunbar, which I don't know if I would have said before seeing this. Especially when you're talking DC, and things change fast - early indicators are valuable.

Does this data exist for charters?


Not all APs are created equal. Oyster APs are for Spanish. As are I bet a good chunk at CHEC. If you care about math or science go to schools with the highest percent passing. And a 3 doesn’t tell you much. You shouldn’t be impressed by these numbers.


PP here - ahh, okay, that makes sense about the Spanish AP for Oyster-Adams.

I wish there was a breakdown by which APs this is, by school. You can see one or the other, but not a cross tab of both. You're right that AP Spanish might be a big chunk of this for CHEC.

As far as your "shouldn't be impressed" - that rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe it's just word choice, and I'm overthinking it, but it's not about being "impressed" - it's about finding schools that might be able to support your child in achieving their goals, and about people wanting more and more DC schools to be able to support all students where they are.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 12:44     Subject: AP Test Passage By High School
I would definitely credit kids for good Spanish. Absolutely.

That said, if I knew that any Roosevelt or CHEC or Eastern students were getting 4s in Physics it would really impress me.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 12:38     Subject: Re:AP Test Passage By High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is really fascinating data. I think it might give you insight on schools that are perhaps up and coming - an early indicator.

So there's the obvious, plenty of good scores, from Wilson, Walls, Banneker. And even a decent amount from Oyster-Adams, which is surprising (doesn't that only go through 8th grade? They've got 8th graders taking AP tests??)

Then you got the zero or close to it contingent - Anacostia, Ballou, Dunbar, Eastern, Phelps, Ron Brown, Woodson. The bottom line is, if your kid has the skills to get decent scores on a couple AP tests, they are NOT going to fit in there - they will have NO kids at their level. For most parents, that is not an option.

But this gives a window into other options. Ellington, CHEC, McKinley - they may not be at the numbers that Wilson, Walls, and Banneker have, but they're over 50. That means there's a solid cohort of kids there taking and doing well at AP exams. This would make me feel much better about sending my kid, who will be taking and probably doing well at AP tests, to one of these schools - they'll have real AP classes with other students who are at AP level, and probably in a variety of subjects.

Cardozo, Coolidge, Roosevelt - these numbers are small (in the teens) but that's really different than 0-2. You're approaching a number where you could have some real AP classes. These numbers would make me bet on, for example, Roosevelt over Dunbar, which I don't know if I would have said before seeing this. Especially when you're talking DC, and things change fast - early indicators are valuable.

Does this data exist for charters?


Not all APs are created equal. Oyster APs are for Spanish. As are I bet a good chunk at CHEC. If you care about math or science go to schools with the highest percent passing. And a 3 doesn’t tell you much. You shouldn’t be impressed by these numbers.


You sound miserable! Oyster-Adams’ 8th graders recently had a 74% passage rate on the AP Spanish Language exam (98% pre-COVID). Many of those students earn 5s which can allow them to earn college credit. That’s impressive!


Huh? I was responding to PP who was surprised by Oyster having AP scores at all given it’s a middle school. My comments about scores were in regards to the HS. I also don’t think most universities give credit for APs in middle school. You seem defensive but I’m glad your kid got a 5 on Spanish lang.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 12:27     Subject: Re:AP Test Passage By High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is really fascinating data. I think it might give you insight on schools that are perhaps up and coming - an early indicator.

So there's the obvious, plenty of good scores, from Wilson, Walls, Banneker. And even a decent amount from Oyster-Adams, which is surprising (doesn't that only go through 8th grade? They've got 8th graders taking AP tests??)

Then you got the zero or close to it contingent - Anacostia, Ballou, Dunbar, Eastern, Phelps, Ron Brown, Woodson. The bottom line is, if your kid has the skills to get decent scores on a couple AP tests, they are NOT going to fit in there - they will have NO kids at their level. For most parents, that is not an option.

But this gives a window into other options. Ellington, CHEC, McKinley - they may not be at the numbers that Wilson, Walls, and Banneker have, but they're over 50. That means there's a solid cohort of kids there taking and doing well at AP exams. This would make me feel much better about sending my kid, who will be taking and probably doing well at AP tests, to one of these schools - they'll have real AP classes with other students who are at AP level, and probably in a variety of subjects.

Cardozo, Coolidge, Roosevelt - these numbers are small (in the teens) but that's really different than 0-2. You're approaching a number where you could have some real AP classes. These numbers would make me bet on, for example, Roosevelt over Dunbar, which I don't know if I would have said before seeing this. Especially when you're talking DC, and things change fast - early indicators are valuable.

Does this data exist for charters?


Not all APs are created equal. Oyster APs are for Spanish. As are I bet a good chunk at CHEC. If you care about math or science go to schools with the highest percent passing. And a 3 doesn’t tell you much. You shouldn’t be impressed by these numbers.


You sound miserable! Oyster-Adams’ 8th graders recently had a 74% passage rate on the AP Spanish Language exam (98% pre-COVID). Many of those students earn 5s which can allow them to earn college credit. That’s impressive!
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 12:14     Subject: Re:AP Test Passage By High School
Anonymous wrote:This is really fascinating data. I think it might give you insight on schools that are perhaps up and coming - an early indicator.

So there's the obvious, plenty of good scores, from Wilson, Walls, Banneker. And even a decent amount from Oyster-Adams, which is surprising (doesn't that only go through 8th grade? They've got 8th graders taking AP tests??)

Then you got the zero or close to it contingent - Anacostia, Ballou, Dunbar, Eastern, Phelps, Ron Brown, Woodson. The bottom line is, if your kid has the skills to get decent scores on a couple AP tests, they are NOT going to fit in there - they will have NO kids at their level. For most parents, that is not an option.

But this gives a window into other options. Ellington, CHEC, McKinley - they may not be at the numbers that Wilson, Walls, and Banneker have, but they're over 50. That means there's a solid cohort of kids there taking and doing well at AP exams. This would make me feel much better about sending my kid, who will be taking and probably doing well at AP tests, to one of these schools - they'll have real AP classes with other students who are at AP level, and probably in a variety of subjects.

Cardozo, Coolidge, Roosevelt - these numbers are small (in the teens) but that's really different than 0-2. You're approaching a number where you could have some real AP classes. These numbers would make me bet on, for example, Roosevelt over Dunbar, which I don't know if I would have said before seeing this. Especially when you're talking DC, and things change fast - early indicators are valuable.

Does this data exist for charters?


Not all APs are created equal. Oyster APs are for Spanish. As are I bet a good chunk at CHEC. If you care about math or science go to schools with the highest percent passing. And a 3 doesn’t tell you much. You shouldn’t be impressed by these numbers.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 11:50     Subject: Re:AP Test Passage By High School
This is really fascinating data. I think it might give you insight on schools that are perhaps up and coming - an early indicator.

So there's the obvious, plenty of good scores, from Wilson, Walls, Banneker. And even a decent amount from Oyster-Adams, which is surprising (doesn't that only go through 8th grade? They've got 8th graders taking AP tests??)

Then you got the zero or close to it contingent - Anacostia, Ballou, Dunbar, Eastern, Phelps, Ron Brown, Woodson. The bottom line is, if your kid has the skills to get decent scores on a couple AP tests, they are NOT going to fit in there - they will have NO kids at their level. For most parents, that is not an option.

But this gives a window into other options. Ellington, CHEC, McKinley - they may not be at the numbers that Wilson, Walls, and Banneker have, but they're over 50. That means there's a solid cohort of kids there taking and doing well at AP exams. This would make me feel much better about sending my kid, who will be taking and probably doing well at AP tests, to one of these schools - they'll have real AP classes with other students who are at AP level, and probably in a variety of subjects.

Cardozo, Coolidge, Roosevelt - these numbers are small (in the teens) but that's really different than 0-2. You're approaching a number where you could have some real AP classes. These numbers would make me bet on, for example, Roosevelt over Dunbar, which I don't know if I would have said before seeing this. Especially when you're talking DC, and things change fast - early indicators are valuable.

Does this data exist for charters?
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 10:34     Subject: AP Test Passage By High School
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apropos of another thread, does anyone know where to look for AP test passage (3 or better) for any given high school for any recent year? Any chance it shows which tests?


You should really look at scores of 4 or 5. Forget 3.


Post that data, and we’ll look at it. Meanwhile DCPS, OSSE, USNWR, and the College Board are all giving us data about 3s.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 10:27     Subject: AP Test Passage By High School
Anonymous wrote:Apropos of another thread, does anyone know where to look for AP test passage (3 or better) for any given high school for any recent year? Any chance it shows which tests?


You should really look at scores of 4 or 5. Forget 3.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 09:58     Subject: Re:AP Test Passage By High School
I googled "dcps ap scores by school"

and it took me to:

https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/ap-score-data-sets
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 09:57     Subject: Re:AP Test Passage By High School
Just search AP data DCPS. You won’t get much useful info. The passing rates are terrible at most schools or very few kids take the ap test outside of the application schools and JR. you won’t get data by test, it’s too identifiable at most schools.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2023 09:43     Subject: AP Test Passage By High School
Apropos of another thread, does anyone know where to look for AP test passage (3 or better) for any given high school for any recent year? Any chance it shows which tests?