I notice that articles like these always frame the issue as some deficiency or failing with men, whereas when a demographic trend is unfavorable for women it is usually externalized, attributed to some outside force or...blamed on men again.

We need to start being honest about how held-preferences, individual action and societal forces are combining to foment these trends.

It's easy to just resort to bludgeoning men, but I don't think it's the answer long term.

From the article:

“Young men ‘are watching a lot of social media, they’re watching a lot of porn, and I think they’re getting a lot of their needs met without having to go out. And I think that’s starting to be a habit.’”

Ya think? The middle school kids waiting for the bus outside my house are all boys. They stand there staring at their phones. Hours later, I see them get off the bus still staring at their phones. I imagine they go home and keep staring or maybe start playing video games because homework doesn’t happen anymore. Do parents really think these kids are going to magically turn into socially adjusted adults when they’ve spent the entirety of their teenage years interacting primarily with screens?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought two-thirds of teenage girls were suicidal? I wonder if maybe these phenomena the press keeps reporting are overblown or inaccurate.

One-third of teen girls are depressed and have contemplated suicide.

As of 2022, Pew Research Center found, 30 percent of U.S. adults are neither married, living with a partner nor engaged in a committed relationship. Nearly half of all young adults are single: 34 percent of women, and a whopping 63 percent of men.

Lol.

Survey: Are you in a relationship?

Her: Of course! He isn’t as attentive as he needs to be, and he forgot Valentine’s Day, and he doesn’t meet all of my needs, but we’re working through it.

Him: Nah.

Lol. That's funny but you should read the piece. There's a lot in there about romantic relationships and friends, and the lack thereof.

Anonymous wrote:I am all for supporting women and encouraging them to be leaders. However, I hate what we are doing in society today, forgetting about the boys and younger men sometimes. The old white guys seem to women out in the old generation. But they are different than the young males who are struggling right now.

In my company (in a field that was formerly considered male dominant), 65% of the leadership is women. We were told specifically to promote women into these positions, and once the women are in they continue to push other women into leadership positions. It's like the good old boys network except the other direction.

What field, if you don't mind sharing?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought two-thirds of teenage girls were suicidal? I wonder if maybe these phenomena the press keeps reporting are overblown or inaccurate.

One-third of teen girls are depressed and have contemplated suicide.

As of 2022, Pew Research Center found, 30 percent of U.S. adults are neither married, living with a partner nor engaged in a committed relationship. Nearly half of all young adults are single: 34 percent of women, and a whopping 63 percent of men.

Not to be dense, but... how? Assuming a rate of homosexuality or bisexuality of 15%, who are the 66% of coupled women coupled with, if only 37% of men are coupled?

The article mentions this. They are puzzled by the math too. Some women are dating each other and many women are dating/marrying men who are older, whether by a couple years or by more.

I'm still not sure how it adds up, TBH.

Some combination of 1.) dating older men 2.) dating each other 3.) dating the same man, whether knowingly or not 4.) differing definitions on what constitutes "single"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought two-thirds of teenage girls were suicidal? I wonder if maybe these phenomena the press keeps reporting are overblown or inaccurate.

One-third of teen girls are depressed and have contemplated suicide.

As of 2022, Pew Research Center found, 30 percent of U.S. adults are neither married, living with a partner nor engaged in a committed relationship. Nearly half of all young adults are single: 34 percent of women, and a whopping 63 percent of men.

Lol.

Survey: Are you in a relationship?

Her: Of course! He isn’t as attentive as he needs to be, and he forgot Valentine’s Day, and he doesn’t meet all of my needs, but we’re working through it.

Him: Nah.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought two-thirds of teenage girls were suicidal? I wonder if maybe these phenomena the press keeps reporting are overblown or inaccurate.

One-third of teen girls are depressed and have contemplated suicide.

As of 2022, Pew Research Center found, 30 percent of U.S. adults are neither married, living with a partner nor engaged in a committed relationship. Nearly half of all young adults are single: 34 percent of women, and a whopping 63 percent of men.

Not to be dense, but... how? Assuming a rate of homosexuality or bisexuality of 15%, who are the 66% of coupled women coupled with, if only 37% of men are coupled?

The article mentions this. They are puzzled by the math too. Some women are dating each other and many women are dating/marrying men who are older, whether by a couple years or by more.

I'm still not sure how it adds up, TBH.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought two-thirds of teenage girls were suicidal? I wonder if maybe these phenomena the press keeps reporting are overblown or inaccurate.

One-third of teen girls are depressed and have contemplated suicide.

As of 2022, Pew Research Center found, 30 percent of U.S. adults are neither married, living with a partner nor engaged in a committed relationship. Nearly half of all young adults are single: 34 percent of women, and a whopping 63 percent of men.

Not to be dense, but... how? Assuming a rate of homosexuality or bisexuality of 15%, who are the 66% of coupled women coupled with, if only 37% of men are coupled?

Anonymous wrote:Also - men never leave women. It's always the woman who leaves the man. Maybe not 100% of the time - but nearly.

Important to note that this does not mean men do not precipitate the end of the relationship. Women leave because of infidelity, loss of interest, unequal childcare and housework, and lack of emotional presence of support... by men. Men are willing to maintain a crappy relationship because they still get stuff out of it -- free childcare, a nicer home, financial stability, access to sex or affection. Women leave because they are giving more than they are getting, and realize they could do the same amount of work but be more personally fulfilled on their own.

I am all for supporting women and encouraging them to be leaders. However, I hate what we are doing in society today, forgetting about the boys and younger men sometimes. The old white guys seem to women out in the old generation. But they are different than the young males who are struggling right now.

In my company (in a field that was formerly considered male dominant), 65% of the leadership is women. We were told specifically to promote women into these positions, and once the women are in they continue to push other women into leadership positions. It's like the good old boys network except the other direction.

Anonymous wrote:I thought two-thirds of teenage girls were suicidal? I wonder if maybe these phenomena the press keeps reporting are overblown or inaccurate.

One-third of teen girls are depressed and have contemplated suicide.

As of 2022, Pew Research Center found, 30 percent of U.S. adults are neither married, living with a partner nor engaged in a committed relationship. Nearly half of all young adults are single: 34 percent of women, and a whopping 63 percent of men.

I thought two-thirds of teenage girls were suicidal? I wonder if maybe these phenomena the press keeps reporting are overblown or inaccurate.

Anonymous wrote:It's the same for African American women, yet we still find ways to thrive.

African American women are thriving, yes, but are African American men thriving?

It's the same for African American women, yet we still find ways to thrive.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/

Most young men are single and a large number have no friends. There's a disconnected crisis, it's been going on for years, and the pandemic made it much worse.