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Anonymous wrote:OP here.. thank you all for the responses. Does anyone happen to have a child at any of these schools? Know this can change with new admin, teachers etc. and do these schools cater to children with behavioral issues? My sense was that they do not.

We have been at diener for years. The common refrain re the academics have no bearing on kids like yours and mine who are two years behind, IMHO.

I am not a current Diener parent (former parent) but your child’s social emotional needs seem to fit Diener. Still, I don’t understand this previous poster. If you think your child has the capacity to move towards grade level with appropriate instruction, then Diener’s academic program may not be a fit (or you will need to go in knowing you will need to supplement academically)

Well, respectfully, I think it depends on your child’s iq and abilities. Many kids at diener snd other SN schools are not equipped to move to grade level. Maybe for special education the standards adjust.

I agree with you. I was trying to address your point when I referenced the child’s capacity.

I think you are correct that for some students, grade level is not an appropriate / expectation or goal. For some special needs students with a learning disability but an average to high iq (or high component of iq), such a child may be able to advance with better instruction (some dyslexic students who can make progress with better instruction). It is this latter group who are less of a fit at Diener (without supplemental instruction)

I don’t think that’s a fair overview. There are many kids with average to above IQs doing well in the middle school. The kids I know that needed more support Still need that extra support even at other more intensive schools. They still have to supplement. There are also kids at all these schools with behavioral issues that interfere with learning and mean that the academics have to move more slowly. Look, the whole thing is so individual that it works for some kids and not others and there’s not really clear cut rules.

But, do the students in the middle school at Diener with average to high iq also have learning disabilities? That is the group I suggest might to have their academic needs met at Diener if they are “behind” academically (my comments are focused on experience at the elementary school level, not middle school).

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.. thank you all for the responses. Does anyone happen to have a child at any of these schools? Know this can change with new admin, teachers etc. and do these schools cater to children with behavioral issues? My sense was that they do not.

We have been at diener for years. The common refrain re the academics have no bearing on kids like yours and mine who are two years behind, IMHO.

I am not a current Diener parent (former parent) but your child’s social emotional needs seem to fit Diener. Still, I don’t understand this previous poster. If you think your child has the capacity to move towards grade level with appropriate instruction, then Diener’s academic program may not be a fit (or you will need to go in knowing you will need to supplement academically)

Well, respectfully, I think it depends on your child’s iq and abilities. Many kids at diener snd other SN schools are not equipped to move to grade level. Maybe for special education the standards adjust.

I agree with you. I was trying to address your point when I referenced the child’s capacity.

I think you are correct that for some students, grade level is not an appropriate / expectation or goal. For some special needs students with a learning disability but an average to high iq (or high component of iq), such a child may be able to advance with better instruction (some dyslexic students who can make progress with better instruction). It is this latter group who are less of a fit at Diener (without supplemental instruction)

I don’t think that’s a fair overview. There are many kids with average to above IQs doing well in the middle school. The kids I know that needed more support Still need that extra support even at other more intensive schools. They still have to supplement. There are also kids at all these schools with behavioral issues that interfere with learning and mean that the academics have to move more slowly. Look, the whole thing is so individual that it works for some kids and not others and there’s not really clear cut rules.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.. thank you all for the responses. Does anyone happen to have a child at any of these schools? Know this can change with new admin, teachers etc. and do these schools cater to children with behavioral issues? My sense was that they do not.

We have been at diener for years. The common refrain re the academics have no bearing on kids like yours and mine who are two years behind, IMHO.

I am not a current Diener parent (former parent) but your child’s social emotional needs seem to fit Diener. Still, I don’t understand this previous poster. If you think your child has the capacity to move towards grade level with appropriate instruction, then Diener’s academic program may not be a fit (or you will need to go in knowing you will need to supplement academically)

Well, respectfully, I think it depends on your child’s iq and abilities. Many kids at diener snd other SN schools are not equipped to move to grade level. Maybe for special education the standards adjust.

I agree with you. I was trying to address your point when I referenced the child’s capacity.

I think you are correct that for some students, grade level is not an appropriate / expectation or goal. For some special needs students with a learning disability but an average to high iq (or high component of iq), such a child may be able to advance with better instruction (some dyslexic students who can make progress with better instruction). It is this latter group who are less of a fit at Diener (without supplemental instruction)

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.. thank you all for the responses. Does anyone happen to have a child at any of these schools? Know this can change with new admin, teachers etc. and do these schools cater to children with behavioral issues? My sense was that they do not.

We have been at diener for years. The common refrain re the academics have no bearing on kids like yours and mine who are two years behind, IMHO.

I am not a current Diener parent (former parent) but your child’s social emotional needs seem to fit Diener. Still, I don’t understand this previous poster. If you think your child has the capacity to move towards grade level with appropriate instruction, then Diener’s academic program may not be a fit (or you will need to go in knowing you will need to supplement academically)

Well, respectfully, I think it depends on your child’s iq and abilities. Many kids at diener snd other SN schools are not equipped to move to grade level. Maybe for special education the standards adjust.

Op… thank you!! So appreciative of the feedback.

Many kids do well at Diener, but mine lost ground there. I would take a close look at what your child needs in your neuropsych or whatever testing you have and make sure that Diener is going to meet those needs. Their sweet spot is kids who are closer to grade level but have emotional/behavioral needs. They will certainly take kids who are further behind, but a chunk of them leave for more support.

Anonymous wrote:OP here.. thank you all for the responses. Does anyone happen to have a child at any of these schools? Know this can change with new admin, teachers etc. and do these schools cater to children with behavioral issues? My sense was that they do not.

Some, not all the programs at Ivymount cater to behavioral issues. You really need to talk to the school.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.. thank you all for the responses. Does anyone happen to have a child at any of these schools? Know this can change with new admin, teachers etc. and do these schools cater to children with behavioral issues? My sense was that they do not.

We have been at diener for years. The common refrain re the academics have no bearing on kids like yours and mine who are two years behind, IMHO.

I am not a current Diener parent (former parent) but your child’s social emotional needs seem to fit Diener. Still, I don’t understand this previous poster. If you think your child has the capacity to move towards grade level with appropriate instruction, then Diener’s academic program may not be a fit (or you will need to go in knowing you will need to supplement academically)

Anonymous wrote:OP here.. thank you all for the responses. Does anyone happen to have a child at any of these schools? Know this can change with new admin, teachers etc. and do these schools cater to children with behavioral issues? My sense was that they do not.

We have been at diener for years. The common refrain re the academics have no bearing on kids like yours and mine who are two years behind, IMHO.

OP here.. thank you all for the responses. Does anyone happen to have a child at any of these schools? Know this can change with new admin, teachers etc. and do these schools cater to children with behavioral issues? My sense was that they do not.

Sounds like he could be a fit for the Academic and Social
learning program at ivymount. Reach out to them and see if there is any space.

If your kid is 2 grades behind I imagine diener would be more than sufficient

Anonymous wrote:I'm at KTS and I think your profile sounds like a KTS kid.

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I really wished we had stayed focused on schools that took public funding when my child was younger. I know, I know... but the IEP paperwork. However, we have found the standards are much higher, and the teachers have better credentials. Check out KTS for sure.

I'm at KTS and I think your profile sounds like a KTS kid.

We are considering moving our current 4th grader to Ivymount or KTS or Diener. Cannot tour KTS until we apply so hard to get sense, have toured Diener and really liked, but worried not as academically strong and know very little about Ivymount. Based on the websites and in talking to both schools all seem like they would be a good fit, but would really like to get current family feedback, or families that have been there recently. A little on our child...has a diagnosis of ASD/ADHD. Is academically behind (esp in reading and writing) by about a grade or two behind depending on the subject. Has a slight speech delay, struggles socially (but would like to be social) and could use help with emotional regulation, but is not a behavioral problem besides the occasional frustrations with school work. Needs a small class setting with a cohort of similar kids and constant support for reading, writing, speech pragmatics and sensory breaks/movements.