Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Start identifying crazy people earlier will help.

You won't stop violence by locking up everyone you deem "crazy". We need to look at behavioral indicators and control gun ownership.

Gun control won’t do anything. Exhibit A. California has strict gun laws and this still happened. Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade. Evil people will find a way to harm no matter what. Why would a murderer care if he’s breaking a law to get a gun?

California does not have closed borders, nor does it even have the right to have truly strict gun laws. We now live in a country with more guns than people, you think California can somehow prevent gun violence in that environment?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Start identifying crazy people earlier will help.

You won't stop violence by locking up everyone you deem "crazy". We need to look at behavioral indicators and control gun ownership.

Gun control won’t do anything. Exhibit A. California has strict gun laws and this still happened. Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade. Evil people will find a way to harm no matter what. Why would a murderer care if he’s breaking a law to get a gun?

I've been out of the US for many years and was thinking, "well, at least California can make guns illegal." Whoops, forgot about the 2nd amendment. What a fiasco.

Anonymous wrote:Start identifying crazy people earlier will help.

The truth is that helping mentally ill people live productive, healthy lives would require a huge infusion of resources and our country is not willing to do that.

I used to work as a support counselor in a nonprofit mental health organization and I worked with a lot of mentally ill people. A lot of profoundly mentally ill people are navigating the system alone and it’s just not adequate. At best they live off social security disability and a low income housing unit but their actual health and mental state deteriorates. There need to be residential units, funded by the government, with adequate support. So many mass shooters were people whose families were just navigating their illnesses desperately and alone. The shooting event was the outgrowth of the bigger problem, which is less explosive but still tragic. I don’t see legislators attempting to address this OR guns.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Start identifying crazy people earlier will help.

Identifying isn’t the issue. Treatment is. The cops know my neighbor has paranoid schizophrenia but it isn’t illegal to be mentally ill. They engage with him when he commits petty crimes or —more often— is himself the victim of crime (real or imagined), but they can’t lock him up and throw away the key to keep others safe because he might snap.

With adequate red flag laws, they could at least impair his ability to get guns. Probably both these guys had neighbors, family members, etc that knew they were very troubled (and likely even police knew), but both probably had legally purchased guns and ammunition. I think California has a red flag law — I’ll be interested to see where this fell through the cracks. I think the police aren’t using them enough and neighbors/coworkers/family often don’t want to rile the person up by being the one to file. They are used most often by DV victims which is great but doesn’t stop these very unbalanced people that target random members of the community.

Anonymous wrote:I was very confused this morning when I saw the news. Because they are both elderly, Asian, and this is exceedingly rare with that demographic, I wonder if i the shooters have a connection.
It’s so senseless and heartbreaking.

The first shooter felt rejected by his own community and very socially isolated. This may be true of the second as well. There’s a connection between loneliness and dementia. Covid precautions greatly increased the isolation of the elderly. Elderly immigrants are particularly likely to experience loneliness and loss of social status.

Anonymous wrote:Start identifying crazy people earlier will help.

Identifying isn’t the issue. Treatment is. The cops know my neighbor has paranoid schizophrenia but it isn’t illegal to be mentally ill. They engage with him when he commits petty crimes or —more often— is himself the victim of crime (real or imagined), but they can’t lock him up and throw away the key to keep others safe because he might snap.

Anonymous wrote:Start identifying crazy people earlier will help.

You won't stop violence by locking up everyone you deem "crazy". We need to look at behavioral indicators and control gun ownership.

I was very confused this morning when I saw the news. Because they are both elderly, Asian, and this is exceedingly rare with that demographic, I wonder if i the shooters have a connection.
It’s so senseless and heartbreaking.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seven people dead so far:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/us/half-moon-bay-california-shooting-incident/index.html

What will make this insanity end?

Stop voting for republicans.

California is very blue. Apparently voting blue doesn't help.

Well unless California secedes from the union, I’m not sure how that helps. We have an extremely inadequate federal regime on guns, and a political Supreme Court that invalidates most of the state gun laws presented to it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seven people dead so far:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/us/half-moon-bay-california-shooting-incident/index.html

What will make this insanity end?

Stop voting for republicans.

California is very blue. Apparently voting blue doesn't help.

Anonymous wrote:Seven people dead so far:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/us/half-moon-bay-california-shooting-incident/index.html

What will make this insanity end?

Stop voting for republicans.

Guns are the problem. However, unless the GOP and NRA lose their own family members in gun violence why would they care? Do you think they have any empathy with the ordinary people who are being killed?

Start identifying crazy people earlier will help.

Seven people dead so far:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/us/half-moon-bay-california-shooting-incident/index.html

What will make this insanity end?