Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 10:17     Subject: Re:NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

And I don’t care about legacy or athletics. That needs to go too, and I am speaking as an Ivy alum. So that needs to change too. It’s not the harbinger of doom you think it is.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 10:15     Subject: Re:NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am fine with that. College admissions needs a massive overhaul.


Depending on what the Supreme Court says, one of the biggest changes will be elimination of any sort of “Women in STEM” outreach programs, preferences, or scholarships.

Be careful what you (ignorantly) wish for.


Sure. Unless you are an Asian American woman. What this article fails to mention is that the whole college admissions process has been blatantly racist against Asians. Also since we are talking about women girls in general are disadvantaged under admissions to make way for more males that are less qualified. Again college admission here needs an overhaul. Many other countries rely on other meritocratic measures for competitive college admissions and I am all for that.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 10:12     Subject: NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Additionally, I think a by-product of the Supreme Court ruling will be the dismantlement of the historically black colleges and universities. They will no longer qualify for federal funding because that would be “racist” under the SC’s twisted logic. I give HCBUs maybe a decade before the vast majority are shut down due to disqualification for federal funds and programs.

The consequences of this decision will be Orwellian.


Trump wholeheartedly supported HBCUs.


Trump never wholehearted supported anything but Trump and KFC.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 10:08     Subject: NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

And any of that would be bad why?
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 10:07     Subject: Re:NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

I hope we'll see schools following the UT model, and weighing class rank very heavily. When the same percentage of kids from Ballou and Sidwell get in, will the people who brought this complaint be happy?
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 10:05     Subject: Re:NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

Meanwhile ACB’s daughter goes to Notre Dame as a legacy after graduating from a “People of Praise” secondary school.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 10:05     Subject: NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

Anonymous wrote:Additionally, I think a by-product of the Supreme Court ruling will be the dismantlement of the historically black colleges and universities. They will no longer qualify for federal funding because that would be “racist” under the SC’s twisted logic. I give HCBUs maybe a decade before the vast majority are shut down due to disqualification for federal funds and programs.

The consequences of this decision will be Orwellian.


Trump wholeheartedly supported HBCUs.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 10:02     Subject: NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

Anonymous wrote:Additionally, I think a by-product of the Supreme Court ruling will be the dismantlement of the historically black colleges and universities. They will no longer qualify for federal funding because that would be “racist” under the SC’s twisted logic. I give HCBUs maybe a decade before the vast majority are shut down due to disqualification for federal funds and programs.

The consequences of this decision will be Orwellian.


Nobody is barred from going to an HBCU
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 09:58     Subject: NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

Additionally, I think a by-product of the Supreme Court ruling will be the dismantlement of the historically black colleges and universities. They will no longer qualify for federal funding because that would be “racist” under the SC’s twisted logic. I give HCBUs maybe a decade before the vast majority are shut down due to disqualification for federal funds and programs.

The consequences of this decision will be Orwellian.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 09:53     Subject: Re:NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

Anonymous wrote:I am fine with that. College admissions needs a massive overhaul.


Depending on what the Supreme Court says, one of the biggest changes will be elimination of any sort of “Women in STEM” outreach programs, preferences, or scholarships.

Be careful what you (ignorantly) wish for.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 09:50     Subject: Re:NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

I am fine with that. College admissions needs a massive overhaul.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 09:50     Subject: Re:NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

Anonymous wrote:You think the colleges are gonna depend on historical red lining to find diverse neighborhoods


Uh, that would include the very white and very poor places like, the Appalachias and West Virginia. The article discusses how socioeconomic diversity will become a driving factor. However, the weakness of focusing on socioeconomics generally is that poor kids don’t even both to apply unless there is sustained and targeted outreach. A poor black kid is more likely to apply than a poor white kid because of affirmative action.

Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 09:49     Subject: Re:NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

Anonymous wrote:You think the colleges are gonna depend on historical red lining to find diverse neighborhoods

dp.. they can look at the current demographics of a particular zipcode. I don't think it's a bad idea.

But I don't think legacies will go by the wayside anytime. That's laughable. The powers that be will never go for it because legacy protects their offsprings. It's the ultimate opportunity hoarding.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 09:46     Subject: Re:NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

You think the colleges are gonna depend on historical red lining to find diverse neighborhoods
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2023 09:44     Subject: NYTs: if affirmative action goes, say buy-bye to legacy, EA/ED, and most athletic preferences

And even with the end of those preference programs, it may not be enough to to stave off a rapid decline in URM enrollment. Zip codes of residence will become much more important for building diverse student bodies that are not uniformly UMC.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/15/us/affirmative-action-admissions-scotus.html