What's being built next to Woodleigh Chase on Braddock Rd. To the right of it. Anyone know?

Anonymous wrote:

GPs at Greenspring. They took really good care of my parents. And they had specialist come in on a schedule. So my mom was able to see a cardiologist, audiologist and both saw podiatrists. And they understand the senior population. It’s so hard to find gerontologists outside of a CCRC.

This is good to know. I haven't looked at contracts (NP here) but this is exactly the kind of detail that's extremely important - WHAT medical services are provided, exactly. And assurance that it will continue. Will specialists continue to visit.

Erickson (the company that runs Greenspring) has been around a long time and is in many states. They are building Woodleigh Chase on Braddock in Fairfax, set to open in the fall. It’s not a fly-by-night company. I personally would not have any concerns about changes to their service offerings in the near or even distant future.

GPs at Greenspring. They took really good care of my parents. And they had specialist come in on a schedule. So my mom was able to see a cardiologist, audiologist and both saw podiatrists. And they understand the senior population. It’s so hard to find gerontologists outside of a CCRC.

This is good to know. I haven't looked at contracts (NP here) but this is exactly the kind of detail that's extremely important - WHAT medical services are provided, exactly. And assurance that it will continue. Will specialists continue to visit.

Anonymous wrote:Just starting to look for my dad. Is it common to have a $500k - $1m buy in?

2 years ago at Greenspring, the buy-in ranged from $300,000 to $700,000 with 90% returned when you vacate, from what I remember. And rent was between $2,000-$4000 plus $1000 for an additional person.

Other places have no buy-in but more expensive per month, $4,000-$6,000. Other places have smaller buy-ins, but less money back. So $300k at 30% back or $500k with 90% back. And the rent is higher.

Anonymous wrote:NP and I’m intrigued by the fact that there’s medical care on site.

I have been researching local places for my parent who now lives alone in a my childhood home. My parent refuses to go to one senior community IL because there is no on site medical care unless you hire a private duty aide.

I’m PP. I was impressed with the GPs at Greenspring. They took really good care of my parents. And they had specialist come in on a schedule. So my mom was able to see a cardiologist, audiologist and both saw podiatrists. And they understand the senior population. It’s so hard to find gerontologists outside of a CCRC.

As for care at home, if you are in IL you will need to hire private home health aides.

NP and I’m intrigued by the fact that there’s medical care on site.

I have been researching local places for my parent who now lives alone in a my childhood home. My parent refuses to go to one senior community IL because there is no on site medical care unless you hire a private duty aide.

Not disagreeing. Just saying ... don't be fooled, especially by the corporation, into thinking that a calendar of activities means much.

It only matters if it's actually happening.

Anonymous wrote:It's expensive. This area is expensive. If your parents can afford it -and assume it will be long term and they can afford it for decades- it's a great option. If you hesitate at all re: their money, look in another geographical area.

Also, a calendar of activities looks very appealing. The reality is, it only matters if people participate.

The thing is, even if you don’t participate in activities, it’s still a pretty nice place to live. You have a nice little apartment, you have a kitchen if you want to fix your own meals. You can use the dining room instead if you want. You can use the pool. Your doctor is on-site. The pharmacy is onsite. You can take the shuttle bus to the store. There’s just a lot there, even if you just want to take advantage of part of it.

Anonymous wrote:Just starting to look for my dad. Is it common to have a $500k - $1m buy in?

I've been researching all this on behalf of my aunt and uncle. This is for independent living. There are a couple of different models. One model that Greenspring/Erickson follows is a large buy-in amount, then a more moderate monthly fee. These places will provide care to end of life. So if you need a higher level of care and then can't afford it from your monthly income, they can use the buy-in amount to pay for it. If you move out or pass away without having touched the buy-in fee, you or your heirs get it back, either in full or a high percentage, like 80% or 90%, depending on the contract.

Another model is what Brightview follows, which is a higher monthly fee, but there's no buy-in.

There's different levels of living. Independent is when your parent is basically able to live alone without help for the "activities of daily living" (ADLs, look them up, they're a thing). Assisted Living is when they need some help to manage those ADLs. Skilled Nursing is when they need medical help. Then there's memory care, for those that develop dementia.

Typically these places discussed here take people in when they can go into independent living, or need a small amount of assistance. Many of those places will offer continuing care when it is needed. They are called CCRCs, if I'm remembering correctly. If your parent can afford it, they can be great places and far superior to trying to "age in place".

It's expensive. This area is expensive. If your parents can afford it -and assume it will be long term and they can afford it for decades- it's a great option. If you hesitate at all re: their money, look in another geographical area.

Also, a calendar of activities looks very appealing. The reality is, it only matters if people participate.

Just starting to look for my dad. Is it common to have a $500k - $1m buy in?

We had a family friend in an Erickson-run facility up in NJ and I was very impressed with it.

My parents moved there in 2020. They really liked it. They moved too late to really make friendships. They were in IL, but not healthy enough to join stuff. Plus COVID shut stuff down.
They both passed in 2022. But I’m so glad they moved there. They were only 15-20 mins away from me. I liked knowing they were getting meals. And having a Medical Center on-site was invaluable. Especially as they got sicker and needed to be seen more often. So convenient to just walk over vs loading them up into a car.

I’ll try to answer any questions you have.

One of my relatives worked there pre-Covid, and thought it was well-run.

My parents are considering Greenspring in Springfield. Any experience/reviews?