Anonymous wrote: What they need to do is construct a new bridge across the Potomac further North linking 28 in Virginia to some mythical road in Montgomery County that will take it all the way up to 270

MoCo politicians to blame for this. VA's side was prepared a few years ago -- 28 was updated to meet interstate standards. MD's side is I-370. Both sides needed a few miles to connect, but on the MD side it would involve going through a small corner of the agricultural preserve therefore it's not going to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:MD has signed an agreement with Transurban. That agreement is currently being litigated because other companies wanted to bid, but it’s unlikely that will be successful. It will be very hard for Maryland to exit this agreement and there is no alternative plan in place to rebuild the bridge so it will happen eventually. However in typical Maryland fashion it will be decades too late.

Whatever Transurban has a contract to do, they're not going to do it. As you may have heard, Maryland will have a new governor and 2/3 of a new Board of Public Works next month. The clock ran out on Larry Hogan's pet plan.

So what is YOUR answer then to the chokehold there?

Fix the current American Legion bridge.

"The fact is you just can't build your way out of congestion."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCzCJzwrB_c

Or, if you prefer shorter and not Australian - "The thing we need to understand is induced demand."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7xzktBxgl0&t=516s

Love these kids with what appears to be masters degrees in internet urbanism memes. The idea that you’re posting YouTube links with the expectation of being taken seriously is hilarious.

Ah, the boomer who still can't admit their operating mentality of ignoring most of the rest of the developed world in the 80's and 90's who pivoted infrastructure to a more sustainable fashion of mass transit and instead kept saying "we'll just build one more lane" or "we'll just add this toll road" or "we'll just deck over this highway with another highway" and each time "that will fix traffic forever".

As generally a Maryland person, this brings me no joy to say: in order to get its economy back on track, Maryland needs a new bridge to Virginia. Nova is where all the new jobs are. And it’s just too hard to get to. People will shout “induced demand.” Yes, that’s exactly the point. More people going back and forth. (Also a quick look at the icc shows we are not always taking about bottleneck level traffic!)

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Anonymous wrote:MD has signed an agreement with Transurban. That agreement is currently being litigated because other companies wanted to bid, but it’s unlikely that will be successful. It will be very hard for Maryland to exit this agreement and there is no alternative plan in place to rebuild the bridge so it will happen eventually. However in typical Maryland fashion it will be decades too late.

Whatever Transurban has a contract to do, they're not going to do it. As you may have heard, Maryland will have a new governor and 2/3 of a new Board of Public Works next month. The clock ran out on Larry Hogan's pet plan.

So what is YOUR answer then to the chokehold there?

Same as Elrich and the MoCo leadership -- do nothing.

Actually, Elrich did have a suggestion on how to relieve beltway congestion -- he suggested a campaign to tell people about taking the ICC as an alternative. I'm not making this up. As if people don't have GPS systems that can't already tell them to take it if it's faster.

And that's why maryland is the mess that it is. FWIW the Bridge is on Maryland's side. There was a plan to finish by 2030 or 2040 but as usual nothing is happening and nothing will

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Anonymous wrote:MD has signed an agreement with Transurban. That agreement is currently being litigated because other companies wanted to bid, but it’s unlikely that will be successful. It will be very hard for Maryland to exit this agreement and there is no alternative plan in place to rebuild the bridge so it will happen eventually. However in typical Maryland fashion it will be decades too late.

Whatever Transurban has a contract to do, they're not going to do it. As you may have heard, Maryland will have a new governor and 2/3 of a new Board of Public Works next month. The clock ran out on Larry Hogan's pet plan.

Please dear expert explain how MD gets out of its contractual obligation?

Signing that contract was probably the best thing Hogan ever did for this county because it forced them down a road that’s effectively irreversible except for large financial penalties. Not that they won’t try but eventually the contract will be upheld. The bridge is a done deal but will be more expensive and take longer to address than necessary.

270 is actually where things get interesting. Upcounty wants expansion. Frederick wants expansion.

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Anonymous wrote:MD has signed an agreement with Transurban. That agreement is currently being litigated because other companies wanted to bid, but it’s unlikely that will be successful. It will be very hard for Maryland to exit this agreement and there is no alternative plan in place to rebuild the bridge so it will happen eventually. However in typical Maryland fashion it will be decades too late.

Whatever Transurban has a contract to do, they're not going to do it. As you may have heard, Maryland will have a new governor and 2/3 of a new Board of Public Works next month. The clock ran out on Larry Hogan's pet plan.

So what is YOUR answer then to the chokehold there?

Fix the current American Legion bridge.

"The fact is you just can't build your way out of congestion."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCzCJzwrB_c

Or, if you prefer shorter and not Australian - "The thing we need to understand is induced demand."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7xzktBxgl0&t=516s

Love these kids with what appears to be masters degrees in internet urbanism memes. The idea that you’re posting YouTube links with the expectation of being taken seriously is hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:MD has signed an agreement with Transurban. That agreement is currently being litigated because other companies wanted to bid, but it’s unlikely that will be successful. It will be very hard for Maryland to exit this agreement and there is no alternative plan in place to rebuild the bridge so it will happen eventually. However in typical Maryland fashion it will be decades too late.

Whatever Transurban has a contract to do, they're not going to do it. As you may have heard, Maryland will have a new governor and 2/3 of a new Board of Public Works next month. The clock ran out on Larry Hogan's pet plan.

So what is YOUR answer then to the chokehold there?

Convert the bridge to bike lanes?

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Anonymous wrote:MD has signed an agreement with Transurban. That agreement is currently being litigated because other companies wanted to bid, but it’s unlikely that will be successful. It will be very hard for Maryland to exit this agreement and there is no alternative plan in place to rebuild the bridge so it will happen eventually. However in typical Maryland fashion it will be decades too late.

Whatever Transurban has a contract to do, they're not going to do it. As you may have heard, Maryland will have a new governor and 2/3 of a new Board of Public Works next month. The clock ran out on Larry Hogan's pet plan.

So what is YOUR answer then to the chokehold there?

Fix the current American Legion bridge.

"The fact is you just can't build your way out of congestion."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCzCJzwrB_c

Or, if you prefer shorter and not Australian - "The thing we need to understand is induced demand."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7xzktBxgl0&t=516s

What they need to do is construct a new bridge across the Potomac further North linking 28 in Virginia to some mythical road in Montgomery County that will take it all the way up to 270

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Anonymous wrote:MD has signed an agreement with Transurban. That agreement is currently being litigated because other companies wanted to bid, but it’s unlikely that will be successful. It will be very hard for Maryland to exit this agreement and there is no alternative plan in place to rebuild the bridge so it will happen eventually. However in typical Maryland fashion it will be decades too late.

Whatever Transurban has a contract to do, they're not going to do it. As you may have heard, Maryland will have a new governor and 2/3 of a new Board of Public Works next month. The clock ran out on Larry Hogan's pet plan.

So what is YOUR answer then to the chokehold there?

Same as Elrich and the MoCo leadership -- do nothing.

Actually, Elrich did have a suggestion on how to relieve beltway congestion -- he suggested a campaign to tell people about taking the ICC as an alternative. I'm not making this up. As if people don't have GPS systems that can't already tell them to take it if it's faster.

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Anonymous wrote:MD has signed an agreement with Transurban. That agreement is currently being litigated because other companies wanted to bid, but it’s unlikely that will be successful. It will be very hard for Maryland to exit this agreement and there is no alternative plan in place to rebuild the bridge so it will happen eventually. However in typical Maryland fashion it will be decades too late.

Whatever Transurban has a contract to do, they're not going to do it. As you may have heard, Maryland will have a new governor and 2/3 of a new Board of Public Works next month. The clock ran out on Larry Hogan's pet plan.

So what is YOUR answer then to the chokehold there?

Anonymous wrote:MD has signed an agreement with Transurban. That agreement is currently being litigated because other companies wanted to bid, but it’s unlikely that will be successful. It will be very hard for Maryland to exit this agreement and there is no alternative plan in place to rebuild the bridge so it will happen eventually. However in typical Maryland fashion it will be decades too late.

Whatever Transurban has a contract to do, they're not going to do it. As you may have heard, Maryland will have a new governor and 2/3 of a new Board of Public Works next month. The clock ran out on Larry Hogan's pet plan.

MD has signed an agreement with Transurban. That agreement is currently being litigated because other companies wanted to bid, but it’s unlikely that will be successful. It will be very hard for Maryland to exit this agreement and there is no alternative plan in place to rebuild the bridge so it will happen eventually. However in typical Maryland fashion it will be decades too late.

They’re not.

When are tolls being added?