Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 12:22     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
Anonymous wrote:With Test Optional, now AI that can compose perfect essays in minutes and be undetectable, grade inflation, etc., etc. what is left for colleges to even consider in admissions?


that you're a dumbass.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 12:22     Subject: Re:What the heck is left for AO to consider
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not all schools have grade inflation. That'a actually a benefit of many private schools. They don't inflate grades so colleges have a better read on an applicant. No retakes means their students get what they get. No need to try to figure out of the grade is the result of multiple attempts.


Unless there has been a more recent study, grade inflation is worse in independent schools than public schools

https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/grade-inflation-is-greater-in-wealthier-schools-study-says/2017/08#:~:text=Private%20independent%20(not%20religious)%20schools,3.26%20to%203.28%20(0.6%20percent)


Also, scolds have been talking about the scourge of grade inflation for decades. I saw a fantastic run of headlines dating back to the early 1900s about how grades were inflated, standards were declining, etc. Same tune, different century.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 12:20     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.


Please stop
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 12:12     Subject: Re:What the heck is left for AO to consider
Anonymous wrote:Not all schools have grade inflation. That'a actually a benefit of many private schools. They don't inflate grades so colleges have a better read on an applicant. No retakes means their students get what they get. No need to try to figure out of the grade is the result of multiple attempts.


Unless there has been a more recent study, grade inflation is worse in independent schools than public schools

https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/grade-inflation-is-greater-in-wealthier-schools-study-says/2017/08#:~:text=Private%20independent%20(not%20religious)%20schools,3.26%20to%203.28%20(0.6%20percent)
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 12:09     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.



THis. It's all about giving the AOs the ability to engage in social engineering


Then why are the majority of T50 campuses still full of well off, white kids?


+1
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 12:06     Subject: Re:What the heck is left for AO to consider
Somebody has to flip the coin.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 11:43     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.



THis. It's all about giving the AOs the ability to engage in social engineering


Then why are the majority of T50 campuses still full of well off, white kids?


+1000

DS freshman at T15. His whole floor is rich white kids, no hooks.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 11:28     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.



THis. It's all about giving the AOs the ability to engage in social engineering


Then why are the majority of T50 campuses still full of well off, white kids?
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 11:27     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
Anonymous wrote:Course rigor
Grades
Preparation for potential major/career
AP scores
SAT/ACT scores (if they're strong and school isn't test-blind)
Activities (depth and breadth)
Leadership
Grit
Teacher recommendations
Counselor recommendations (for understanding of the school community, against which the student is compared)
Interviews
Demonstrated interest (including virtual events, visits, early decision)

+1

I don't get how anyone who has done the visits and filled out these applications doesn't realize how much information they submitting for consideration.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 11:27     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.



THis. It's all about giving the AOs the ability to engage in social engineering
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 11:26     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
There was an article about the AI essays today in which an admissions person acknowledge that they were fine, writing-wise, but were trite and clique.

We've all heard the missions trip or "big win" sports essays are overdone, but AI hasn't figured that out...yet.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 11:16     Subject: Re:What the heck is left for AO to consider
Not all schools have grade inflation. That'a actually a benefit of many private schools. They don't inflate grades so colleges have a better read on an applicant. No retakes means their students get what they get. No need to try to figure out of the grade is the result of multiple attempts.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 11:12     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
Course rigor
Grades
Preparation for potential major/career
AP scores
SAT/ACT scores (if they're strong and school isn't test-blind)
Activities (depth and breadth)
Leadership
Grit
Teacher recommendations
Counselor recommendations (for understanding of the school community, against which the student is compared)
Interviews
Demonstrated interest (including virtual events, visits, early decision)
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 11:10     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
If you are first generation or URM.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 11:09     Subject: What the heck is left for AO to consider
With Test Optional, now AI that can compose perfect essays in minutes and be undetectable, grade inflation, etc., etc. what is left for colleges to even consider in admissions?