Anonymous wrote:No dog in this fight but laughing at these new tactics from BASIS haters:

"OK, BASIS has the best academic results in DC but who cares. I hear that they have a very advanced course load and the kids work really hard. So, they should not just do better than other DC schools, even selective schools such as Walls, but way, way, way better. Every kid there should be top 1% in the country. They aren't. Thus, the school must be totally overrated. Plus, I went to a crummy high school in some small town in the midwest 20 years ago, didn't work hard, and did great. If every kid at BASIS doesn't do better than I did, BASIS must be a terrible school. No one should send their kid there."

Nailed it!

LOL. This recap of the PP’s wholly illogical reasoning is spot on.

No dog in this fight but laughing at these new tactics from BASIS haters:

"OK, BASIS has the best academic results in DC but who cares. I hear that they have a very advanced course load and the kids work really hard. So, they should not just do better than other DC schools, even selective schools such as Walls, but way, way, way better. Every kid there should be top 1% in the country. They aren't. Thus, the school must be totally overrated. Plus, I went to a crummy high school in some small town in the midwest 20 years ago, didn't work hard, and did great. If every kid at BASIS doesn't do better than I did, BASIS must be a terrible school. No one should send their kid there."

Many MS students at BASIS are NOT doing hours of homework per night. It’s manageable most nights for those who are academically inclined and take advantage of the study hall period. Second of all, BASIS is a lottery school that does not self select. Some students at BASIS should never have gone to BASIS in the first place. The lack of other good options EOTP causes this result. Complain about BASIS all you want, but nobody who attends is worried about BASIS’s academic track record.

Why in the world are BASIS middle school students doing hours of homework a night for such lackluster results later on? I attended a small-town high school ranked in the bottom third in our state where a bunch of my pals from working class families scored 4s and 5s on half a dozen APs each. More than other DC high schools doesn't do it for me from one of the four or five lowest lowest-performing urban school districts in the country.

Anonymous wrote:Only 40% scored at least a 3 on 3 AP exams at BASIS? Really?! The school that insists that all the kids take algebra no later than 7th grade?

I guessed that at least 3/4 of seniors would have been AP scholars at BASIS DC, given the program's rep for intense rigor from a young age and, apparently, many students washing out along the way.

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Maybe, but only about 10% of high school students earn AP Scholar by the time they graduate. So, 40% seems pretty high to me. And it is likely way higher than any other public school in DC.

Thank you all. I could not find this data. DCPS's is slightly different since you can't break down as much as you can in MCPS. One observation is that Whites in DCPS seem to do at least as well as the other high performing high schools in MCPS. But other races do not. I think this speaks a lot to SES and probably some level of overlapping informal networks amongst whites in DC and nearby MoCo.

Only 40% scored at least a 3 on 3 AP exams at BASIS? Really?! The school that insists that all the kids take algebra no later than 7th grade?

I guessed that at least 3/4 of seniors would have been AP scholars at BASIS DC, given the program's rep for intense rigor from a young age and, apparently, many students washing out along the way.

In case people are too lazy to look, here are the results for the top 3 schools:

School SAT AP

Walls 1317 89% scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam
Banneker 1088 48% scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam
JR 1050 63% scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam

As far as charters, BASIS DC is by far the top:

School SAT AP

BASIS DC 1368 40% were AP Scholars, which means they scored at least a 3 on at least THREE AP exams; kids who scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam was probably in the mid 90s.

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Anonymous wrote:SATs are in the same place:

https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat

I believe you can find additional data at OSSE and USNWR.

But the bottom line is, if you’re looking to be reassured that JR averages match Whitman averages, just move to MOCO. The top students at JR do very well — the distribution of SAT scores goes all the way up to the top, and students go to T20 colleges every year — but it’s a large school and it’s not all top students.

Anyone know the results at charters?

Is your kid in 4th grade or below? If your kid is in 5th grade or above, there are no charter high schools available to you that can even begin to compete with JR.

Anonymous wrote:SATs are in the same place:

https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat

I believe you can find additional data at OSSE and USNWR.

But the bottom line is, if you’re looking to be reassured that JR averages match Whitman averages, just move to MOCO. The top students at JR do very well — the distribution of SAT scores goes all the way up to the top, and students go to T20 colleges every year — but it’s a large school and it’s not all top students.

Anyone know the results at charters?

SATs are in the same place:

https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat

I believe you can find additional data at OSSE and USNWR.

But the bottom line is, if you’re looking to be reassured that JR averages match Whitman averages, just move to MOCO. The top students at JR do very well — the distribution of SAT scores goes all the way up to the top, and students go to T20 colleges every year — but it’s a large school and it’s not all top students.

This is what's available for AP tests.
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/ap-score-data-sets

I'm not familiar with any SAT data.

OP here. Sorry, forgot to provide a link to the MCPS data: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/data/individual-measures.html

MCPS has data on each high school's SAT mean score (verbal and math), and various types of AP data, eg, %age of 12th graders that took an AP and score 3+, %age of APs taken that score 3+.

I looked around and can't find DCPS data that is similar. Does it exist?