Anonymous wrote:The cost of living is significantly lower in red states. Lower salaries, lower construction costs, lower HVAC bills, etc. That accounts for pretty much all of the discrepancy.

+1 CA UC schools are pricey now due to the col. It's not because FL prioritizes higher ed more than CA. That's funny.

The cost of living is significantly lower in red states. Lower salaries, lower construction costs, lower HVAC bills, etc. That accounts for pretty much all of the discrepancy.

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Anonymous wrote:Blue states are too? UOregon is affordable for most and they have scholarship programs for low income. Plus it’s pretty easy to get in. People in the DMV are just getting especially boned by a lack of access to state flagships.

Why is u of o and osu ranked so much worse than uf and uga?

Probably because they admit tons of in-state students even if they don’t have top statistics. Which, frankly, I think UVA should also do. State flagships should not be exclusive institutions.

+1 Some institutions prioritize in-state access over chasing rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Blue states are too? UOregon is affordable for most and they have scholarship programs for low income. Plus it’s pretty easy to get in. People in the DMV are just getting especially boned by a lack of access to state flagships.

Why is u of o and osu ranked so much worse than uf and uga?

Probably because they admit tons of in-state students even if they don’t have top statistics. Which, frankly, I think UVA should also do. State flagships should not be exclusive institutions.

Anonymous wrote:It's because they spend less money on instructional expenses and research. More adjuncts, higher student-faculty ratio, and they don't compete to hire top faculty.

“Top faculty” is wasted on most t20 kids as well at the ug level if we are being honest

“Top faculty” only matters if you are running Oxford style tutorial system (like Williams does)

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Anonymous wrote:Blue states are too? UOregon is affordable for most and they have scholarship programs for low income. Plus it’s pretty easy to get in. People in the DMV are just getting especially boned by a lack of access to state flagships.

Why is u of o and osu ranked so much worse than uf and uga?

If we’re going to cherry pick, why is University of Kentucky ranked so much worse than any of them?

Because it’s Kentucky

Oregon is nice!

That’s not a good retort pp

It's because they spend less money on instructional expenses and research. More adjuncts, higher student-faculty ratio, and they don't compete to hire top faculty.

They aren’t. Colleges in red and blue states have a similar price tags. But, smaller colleges cost more than huge colleges.



Numbers below are instate, 2020-2021 SY. U of Florida is cheap at $6032. But besides that, there is little to no tuition difference between Similarly sized schools in red and blue states.

Virginia:

VT. $14,124
JMU $12, 638
ODU $10,800
VCU $15,319
CNU $14,024
UMW $13,800

Vs:

Red States

Clemson: $15,558
U of S. Carolina $12,688
UGA $12,068
GT $12,852
UT $13,244
UAB $11,620
Ole Miss, $9028
U LA $11,958
Auburn $11,826
U Indiana $11,333

Vs

Blue States

U Wisconsin $10,720
U of M, just over $15,000
UMD $10,955
U Washington $12,076
UC Bolder $12,496

The NE State schools are more like 15k-16k. But like UVA and WM, they are much smaller. U Delaware $15,020, but only 18k undergrad students, about the same size as UVA. In comparison WM is 6500 undergrad and UGA 30k undergrad.

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Anonymous wrote:Blue states are too? UOregon is affordable for most and they have scholarship programs for low income. Plus it’s pretty easy to get in. People in the DMV are just getting especially boned by a lack of access to state flagships.

Why is u of o and osu ranked so much worse than uf and uga?

If we’re going to cherry pick, why is University of Kentucky ranked so much worse than any of them?

I went to UF. I had so many classmates who were accepted to much better colleges. They chose UF because it was completely free and they could put their college money towards grad school.

I think education should be prioritized over other things. I know the state my DH is from puts its lottery money into elderly care, but I haven't noticed their elderly care being anything more than sub par.

Anonymous wrote:Blue states are too? UOregon is affordable for most and they have scholarship programs for low income. Plus it’s pretty easy to get in. People in the DMV are just getting especially boned by a lack of access to state flagships.

Why is u of o and osu ranked so much worse than uf and uga?

Anonymous wrote:The Florida legislature has prioritized funding the state’s university system so that they can keep tuition low. The state also has a really generous merit scholarship program funded by the lottery.

Exactly Florida taxes the stupid to give money to the smart. Pretty good plan for higher ed.

The Florida legislature has prioritized funding the state’s university system so that they can keep tuition low. The state also has a really generous merit scholarship program funded by the lottery.

Blue states are too? UOregon is affordable for most and they have scholarship programs for low income. Plus it’s pretty easy to get in. People in the DMV are just getting especially boned by a lack of access to state flagships.

Specially Georgia and Florida .
Tuition is affordable and they give a lot of in state merit aid to students.