Anonymous
11/10/2022 11:05
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
One caveat here, if the course had an associated SOL needed for graduation it has to stay on the transcript (unless there were later SOLs. This is mainly an issue for accelerated math. I don't recall all the specifics but when we discussed it with DS's counselor late in junior year she said he had to keep his geometry in 8th grade because of that. So, discuss it with the counselor sooner rather than later.
You need a certain number of verified credits to graduate. (Verified credits are courses for which the kid took the associated SOL.) So, you can drop a MS course so long as you have other verified credits within that subject to meet graduation requirements. Best to ask your counselor.
Question for veteran parents. I believe the attraction for dropping MS courses that yield HS credit is that they don't generate honors bonuses for GPA calculations. Thus, say a kid has all As in MS and HS. They would have a higher GPA in HS if they dropped the MS courses that yielded HS credits because their GPA would not be diluted with courses that don't convey a GPA bonus. For parents that have gone through this, is that right?
Yes, exactly. A straight-A student who has taken AP and IB classes will have a higher weighted GPA if they get rid of the MS classes.
Why don't they just fix this GPA anomaly so that kids don't have to jump through hoops deleting MS courses?
This was DS’s situation last year. He could have bumped up his weighted GPA by dropping his HS classes from MS, all had A grades. Our private college counselor advised kid not to drop the MS classes, thinking that selective colleges all recalculate the GPA anyway, looking just at unweighted grades then considering rigor (AP and IB) in parallel. In other words, any bump in weighted GPA bump is just a mirage. Maybe even harmful because colleges would love to see a kid who was also bringing home the As in MS. DS at Hopkins, so that strategy worked for him there at least.
At least some college applications ask for UNweighted GPAs anyway.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 11:03
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
One caveat here, if the course had an associated SOL needed for graduation it has to stay on the transcript (unless there were later SOLs. This is mainly an issue for accelerated math. I don't recall all the specifics but when we discussed it with DS's counselor late in junior year she said he had to keep his geometry in 8th grade because of that. So, discuss it with the counselor sooner rather than later.
You need a certain number of verified credits to graduate. (Verified credits are courses for which the kid took the associated SOL.) So, you can drop a MS course so long as you have other verified credits within that subject to meet graduation requirements. Best to ask your counselor.
Question for veteran parents. I believe the attraction for dropping MS courses that yield HS credit is that they don't generate honors bonuses for GPA calculations. Thus, say a kid has all As in MS and HS. They would have a higher GPA in HS if they dropped the MS courses that yielded HS credits because their GPA would not be diluted with courses that don't convey a GPA bonus. For parents that have gone through this, is that right?
Yes, exactly. A straight-A student who has taken AP and IB classes will have a higher weighted GPA if they get rid of the MS classes.
Why don't they just fix this GPA anomaly so that kids don't have to jump through hoops deleting MS courses?
Too much focus on numbers. They should just see what classes a student took and what grade they got in them.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 11:01
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
NP here. So if my kid took algebra I in middle school, he can remove that from his HS GPA but still get the credit? I assume this only makes sense if you didn’t make an A? Are intensified classes weighted, or only AP/IB?
I don't know for sure about the credit.
Intensified classes are not weighted.
Yes, it's a way to improve a high school GPA if the student didn't do so well in the middle school class.
Anonymous
11/09/2022 21:58
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
One caveat here, if the course had an associated SOL needed for graduation it has to stay on the transcript (unless there were later SOLs. This is mainly an issue for accelerated math. I don't recall all the specifics but when we discussed it with DS's counselor late in junior year she said he had to keep his geometry in 8th grade because of that. So, discuss it with the counselor sooner rather than later.
You need a certain number of verified credits to graduate. (Verified credits are courses for which the kid took the associated SOL.) So, you can drop a MS course so long as you have other verified credits within that subject to meet graduation requirements. Best to ask your counselor.
Question for veteran parents. I believe the attraction for dropping MS courses that yield HS credit is that they don't generate honors bonuses for GPA calculations. Thus, say a kid has all As in MS and HS. They would have a higher GPA in HS if they dropped the MS courses that yielded HS credits because their GPA would not be diluted with courses that don't convey a GPA bonus. For parents that have gone through this, is that right?
Yes, exactly. A straight-A student who has taken AP and IB classes will have a higher weighted GPA if they get rid of the MS classes.
What about geography, that everyone must take in 8th grade but is HS credit? Can you still get credit for the class but remove it from your gpa? My kid will have 5 HS classes by the end of MS (all A’s so far)… trying to understand how this works.
Anonymous
11/09/2022 21:52
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
One caveat here, if the course had an associated SOL needed for graduation it has to stay on the transcript (unless there were later SOLs. This is mainly an issue for accelerated math. I don't recall all the specifics but when we discussed it with DS's counselor late in junior year she said he had to keep his geometry in 8th grade because of that. So, discuss it with the counselor sooner rather than later.
You need a certain number of verified credits to graduate. (Verified credits are courses for which the kid took the associated SOL.) So, you can drop a MS course so long as you have other verified credits within that subject to meet graduation requirements. Best to ask your counselor.
Question for veteran parents. I believe the attraction for dropping MS courses that yield HS credit is that they don't generate honors bonuses for GPA calculations. Thus, say a kid has all As in MS and HS. They would have a higher GPA in HS if they dropped the MS courses that yielded HS credits because their GPA would not be diluted with courses that don't convey a GPA bonus. For parents that have gone through this, is that right?
Yes, exactly. A straight-A student who has taken AP and IB classes will have a higher weighted GPA if they get rid of the MS classes.
Why don't they just fix this GPA anomaly so that kids don't have to jump through hoops deleting MS courses?
This was DS’s situation last year. He could have bumped up his weighted GPA by dropping his HS classes from MS, all had A grades. Our private college counselor advised kid not to drop the MS classes, thinking that selective colleges all recalculate the GPA anyway, looking just at unweighted grades then considering rigor (AP and IB) in parallel. In other words, any bump in weighted GPA bump is just a mirage. Maybe even harmful because colleges would love to see a kid who was also bringing home the As in MS. DS at Hopkins, so that strategy worked for him there at least.
Anonymous
11/09/2022 21:34
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
One caveat here, if the course had an associated SOL needed for graduation it has to stay on the transcript (unless there were later SOLs. This is mainly an issue for accelerated math. I don't recall all the specifics but when we discussed it with DS's counselor late in junior year she said he had to keep his geometry in 8th grade because of that. So, discuss it with the counselor sooner rather than later.
You need a certain number of verified credits to graduate. (Verified credits are courses for which the kid took the associated SOL.) So, you can drop a MS course so long as you have other verified credits within that subject to meet graduation requirements. Best to ask your counselor.
Question for veteran parents. I believe the attraction for dropping MS courses that yield HS credit is that they don't generate honors bonuses for GPA calculations. Thus, say a kid has all As in MS and HS. They would have a higher GPA in HS if they dropped the MS courses that yielded HS credits because their GPA would not be diluted with courses that don't convey a GPA bonus. For parents that have gone through this, is that right?
Yes, exactly. A straight-A student who has taken AP and IB classes will have a higher weighted GPA if they get rid of the MS classes.
Why don't they just fix this GPA anomaly so that kids don't have to jump through hoops deleting MS courses?
Anonymous
11/09/2022 19:56
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
One caveat here, if the course had an associated SOL needed for graduation it has to stay on the transcript (unless there were later SOLs. This is mainly an issue for accelerated math. I don't recall all the specifics but when we discussed it with DS's counselor late in junior year she said he had to keep his geometry in 8th grade because of that. So, discuss it with the counselor sooner rather than later.
You need a certain number of verified credits to graduate. (Verified credits are courses for which the kid took the associated SOL.) So, you can drop a MS course so long as you have other verified credits within that subject to meet graduation requirements. Best to ask your counselor.
Question for veteran parents. I believe the attraction for dropping MS courses that yield HS credit is that they don't generate honors bonuses for GPA calculations. Thus, say a kid has all As in MS and HS. They would have a higher GPA in HS if they dropped the MS courses that yielded HS credits because their GPA would not be diluted with courses that don't convey a GPA bonus. For parents that have gone through this, is that right?
Yes, exactly. A straight-A student who has taken AP and IB classes will have a higher weighted GPA if they get rid of the MS classes.
Anonymous
11/09/2022 18:50
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
One caveat here, if the course had an associated SOL needed for graduation it has to stay on the transcript (unless there were later SOLs. This is mainly an issue for accelerated math. I don't recall all the specifics but when we discussed it with DS's counselor late in junior year she said he had to keep his geometry in 8th grade because of that. So, discuss it with the counselor sooner rather than later.
You need a certain number of verified credits to graduate. (Verified credits are courses for which the kid took the associated SOL.) So, you can drop a MS course so long as you have other verified credits within that subject to meet graduation requirements. Best to ask your counselor.
Question for veteran parents. I believe the attraction for dropping MS courses that yield HS credit is that they don't generate honors bonuses for GPA calculations. Thus, say a kid has all As in MS and HS. They would have a higher GPA in HS if they dropped the MS courses that yielded HS credits because their GPA would not be diluted with courses that don't convey a GPA bonus. For parents that have gone through this, is that right?
Anonymous
11/09/2022 18:10
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
One caveat here, if the course had an associated SOL needed for graduation it has to stay on the transcript (unless there were later SOLs. This is mainly an issue for accelerated math. I don't recall all the specifics but when we discussed it with DS's counselor late in junior year she said he had to keep his geometry in 8th grade because of that. So, discuss it with the counselor sooner rather than later.
Anonymous
11/09/2022 18:08
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
NP here. So if my kid took algebra I in middle school, he can remove that from his HS GPA but still get the credit? I assume this only makes sense if you didn’t make an A? Are intensified classes weighted, or only AP/IB?
Anonymous
11/09/2022 17:49
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Those classes will appear, yes. However, you can have high school classes taken in middle school removed from the transcript and cumulative GPA calculation, if you wish. You cannot remove a high school course taken in high school.
Anonymous
11/09/2022 12:14
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Anonymous wrote:Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
I'm not sure if you can keep some and delete others. In general kids with a strong GPA will remove the classes they took in MS because admissions officers who see that you took French 2 in HS will be able to figure out that you must have taken French 1 before HS.
Anonymous
11/09/2022 11:50
Subject: Re:APS High School Transcripts
Related question (sorry to hijack): what about 8th grade courses? Does it show all of the ones that are "high school level" (foreign language, algebra, computer science) or can you pick and choose which ones will show up on the high school transcript?
Anonymous
11/09/2022 09:26
Subject: APS High School Transcripts
Final year (and first semester of senior year)
Anonymous
11/09/2022 08:37
Subject: APS High School Transcripts
My kid is a 9th grader in APS and in multiple classes just barely got a B+ (as in if they had just redone one assignment in each strategically, the could have had a much better report card for first quarter than they will). On transcripts for college admissions, will it show quarter grades? Semester grades? Or just the one final year end grade for each class?