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Anonymous wrote:This policy is why we moved back to MCPS from private. DS had a really hard time with turning in homework and the policy was so harsh that if he missed an assignment, it was so difficult to catch up. He went from being a straight A student to academic probation. He’s still having trouble turning in assignments, but the ability to do so late has been a game changer. He used to just give up before, and now he has an incentive to complete his work. Maybe this isn’t ideal but it has been a tremendous help for DS.

Why didn't you monitor him to get the assignments done and turned in? I hate the policy. Give a deadline and if its not done you fail.

I can’t monitor something if he didn’t bring it home, and if he forgot, then it’s already too late. He lost 3 homework planners in the first two months of school so writing it down didn’t help either. Also, his MCPS elementary school had a zero homework policy. To go from that to middle school where suddenly it was daily homework and no leeway to turn it in was too much. For us, it’s having some flexibility in turning work in, so it makes getting half credit moot. Ideally, we should want the kids to do the work even if late.

Is this true for AP/IB classes? All classes? Is it determined by MCPS, the high school administration or the teacher? It’s not clear how this is being applied, which would result in inconsistencies in grades?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify this for me? What was it pre pandemic? What was it last year? What is it this year?

I thought kids got fifty percent even if they did not turn in the assignment. But something in another thread in FCPS says you have to at least turn it in to get the fifty percent.

They revised this recently. It was well covered here but you'd have to search.

It was revised, at least in our HS. You get like 2 or 3 chances, after that, they can give you a 0.

Is t there a requirement of actual contact with parents before you can go to a zero? That’s how it was explained to us during BTSN. The problem then is that kids with responsive parents could get a zero but kids whose parents ignored the effort to make conduct would get 50%. So it encourages parents to ignore calls and e-mails from teachers and penalizes kids whose parents respond.

I don’t know but that’s what we were told at back to school night as well. There needs to be contact with a parent. And I think it Hass to be to contacts although I might be miss remembering.

Anonymous wrote:This policy is why we moved back to MCPS from private. DS had a really hard time with turning in homework and the policy was so harsh that if he missed an assignment, it was so difficult to catch up. He went from being a straight A student to academic probation. He’s still having trouble turning in assignments, but the ability to do so late has been a game changer. He used to just give up before, and now he has an incentive to complete his work. Maybe this isn’t ideal but it has been a tremendous help for DS.

Why didn't you monitor him to get the assignments done and turned in? I hate the policy. Give a deadline and if its not done you fail.

To socially pass kids so MCPS doesn't fail them so they have to deal with the kids for an extra year and they can ignore the problems they caused.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify this for me? What was it pre pandemic? What was it last year? What is it this year?

I thought kids got fifty percent even if they did not turn in the assignment. But something in another thread in FCPS says you have to at least turn it in to get the fifty percent.

They revised this recently. It was well covered here but you'd have to search.

It was revised, at least in our HS. You get like 2 or 3 chances, after that, they can give you a 0.

Is t there a requirement of actual contact with parents before you can go to a zero? That’s how it was explained to us during BTSN. The problem then is that kids with responsive parents could get a zero but kids whose parents ignored the effort to make conduct would get 50%. So it encourages parents to ignore calls and e-mails from teachers and penalizes kids whose parents respond.

Anonymous wrote:I was curious about this too. Is there research that shows kids really learn more/make greater effort with this policy in place? I don’t have kids in HS yet but we’re already seeing this in MS. We’re already telling our kids that in the real world, you don’t get half pay for zero work so try your best the first time. But obviously that’s hard to enforce when they see whats going on in class.

Well in all fairness, no you don’t get half pay for zero work. You get full pay unless you don’t show up to an hourly job.

This policy is why we moved back to MCPS from private. DS had a really hard time with turning in homework and the policy was so harsh that if he missed an assignment, it was so difficult to catch up. He went from being a straight A student to academic probation. He’s still having trouble turning in assignments, but the ability to do so late has been a game changer. He used to just give up before, and now he has an incentive to complete his work. Maybe this isn’t ideal but it has been a tremendous help for DS.

Anonymous wrote:I was curious about this too. Is there research that shows kids really learn more/make greater effort with this policy in place? I don’t have kids in HS yet but we’re already seeing this in MS. We’re already telling our kids that in the real world, you don’t get half pay for zero work so try your best the first time. But obviously that’s hard to enforce when they see whats going on in class.

The idea is if you get a 0, it's really hard to climb out of that hole and pass the class.

But what happened instead is people worked out by getting a 50% for donig nothing, then they really needed to do just 1-2 assingments to get enough points to pass, since all the ones they didn't do would end up at 50.

Anonymous wrote:I was curious about this too. Is there research that shows kids really learn more/make greater effort with this policy in place? I don’t have kids in HS yet but we’re already seeing this in MS. We’re already telling our kids that in the real world, you don’t get half pay for zero work so try your best the first time. But obviously that’s hard to enforce when they see whats going on in class.

My son has ADHD and anxiety, and honestly he was a real PITA last year in 9th grade. He took every advantage of the 50% rule and just eeked out Cs in most classes. This year, he is really applying himself and makes sure he turns things in on time. It's not true for all kids. Maybe not even most kids. And it's certainly not mature. But for kids like mine, low expectations encouraged my son to perform poorly. He now works really hard to achieve what people think he can achieve. I am not a teacher, so I don't know the right approach for most kids. I just found it frustrating (and fascinating) to watch.

I was curious about this too. Is there research that shows kids really learn more/make greater effort with this policy in place? I don’t have kids in HS yet but we’re already seeing this in MS. We’re already telling our kids that in the real world, you don’t get half pay for zero work so try your best the first time. But obviously that’s hard to enforce when they see whats going on in class.

It was added during the pandemic, because so many kids weren't even joining their online lesson, let alone doing their work. It affected certain racial groups more than others, so in the interests of equity...

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify this for me? What was it pre pandemic? What was it last year? What is it this year?

I thought kids got fifty percent even if they did not turn in the assignment. But something in another thread in FCPS says you have to at least turn it in to get the fifty percent.

They revised this recently. It was well covered here but you'd have to search.

It was revised, at least in our HS. You get like 2 or 3 chances, after that, they can give you a 0.

Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify this for me? What was it pre pandemic? What was it last year? What is it this year?

I thought kids got fifty percent even if they did not turn in the assignment. But something in another thread in FCPS says you have to at least turn it in to get the fifty percent.

They revised this recently. It was well covered here but you'd have to search.

Can someone clarify this for me? What was it pre pandemic? What was it last year? What is it this year?

I thought kids got fifty percent even if they did not turn in the assignment. But something in another thread in FCPS says you have to at least turn it in to get the fifty percent.