Anonymous
10/24/2022 13:31
Subject: Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what test this is?
https://news.maryland.gov/msde/marylands-scores-reflect-nationwide-learning-loss-trends-in-national-assessment-of-educational-progress-naep/
NAEP I think is MAP testing. Yep, scores dropped across the country. Why is that a surprise. But some progressives don't think there was a learning loss. They claim there was "learning differently". SMH
Anonymous
10/24/2022 13:23
Subject: Re:Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is not just the pandemic... it is demographic change COMBINED with a lowering of standards meant to meet the needs of those who are behind.
"Maryland student scores followed a national declining trend on the 2022 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), continuing a downward trajectory that began in 2013 and worsened during the pandemic."
But sorry, virtual learning and cutting the number of days during the pandemic HAD to have impacted Maryland scores. We are below the national average in 3 of the four tests and the same as the national average in one.
75 percent of Maryland eighth grade students and 69 percent of fourth grade students are at or below basic achievement in mathematics.
4th grade reading - Maryland below national average: Maryland’s fourth grade reading average scale score is 212, down from 220 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 216.
Maryland’s eighth grade reading average scale score is 259, the same as the national average scale score.
Maryland’s fourth grade mathematics average scale score is 229, down from 239 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 235.
Maryland’s eight grade mathematics average scale score is 269, down from 280 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 273
If those are MAP scores, many of the ones your listing are in the top 1% nationally so I'm a little confused.
No idea what they're talking about but a 4th grade MAP-M of 235 is above the 99%.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 13:22
Subject: Re:Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
Anonymous wrote:This is not just the pandemic... it is demographic change COMBINED with a lowering of standards meant to meet the needs of those who are behind.
"Maryland student scores followed a national declining trend on the 2022 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), continuing a downward trajectory that began in 2013 and worsened during the pandemic."
But sorry, virtual learning and cutting the number of days during the pandemic HAD to have impacted Maryland scores. We are below the national average in 3 of the four tests and the same as the national average in one.
75 percent of Maryland eighth grade students and 69 percent of fourth grade students are at or below basic achievement in mathematics.
4th grade reading - Maryland below national average: Maryland’s fourth grade reading average scale score is 212, down from 220 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 216.
Maryland’s eighth grade reading average scale score is 259, the same as the national average scale score.
Maryland’s fourth grade mathematics average scale score is 229, down from 239 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 235.
Maryland’s eight grade mathematics average scale score is 269, down from 280 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 273
If those are MAP scores, many of the ones your listing are in the top 1% nationally so I'm a little confused.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 12:54
Subject: Re:Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
We need smaller class sizes but that will never happen.
I teach a core HS class with 30+ kids in each class including at least 5-6 special Ed. kids in each section.
The range of abilities is huge and it is impossible for me to be able to help struggling students to the extent that they need.
I wish I had 100 kids max but I have 140 including some kids who don’t speak or understand English well.
I teach a core HS class with 30+ kids in each class including at least 5-6 special Ed. kids in each section.
The range of abilities is huge and it is impossible for me to be able to help struggling students to the extent that they need.
I wish I had 100 kids max but I have 140 including some kids who don’t speak or understand English well.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 12:38
Subject: Re:Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
This is not just the pandemic... it is demographic change COMBINED with a lowering of standards meant to meet the needs of those who are behind.
"Maryland student scores followed a national declining trend on the 2022 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), continuing a downward trajectory that began in 2013 and worsened during the pandemic."
But sorry, virtual learning and cutting the number of days during the pandemic HAD to have impacted Maryland scores. We are below the national average in 3 of the four tests and the same as the national average in one.
75 percent of Maryland eighth grade students and 69 percent of fourth grade students are at or below basic achievement in mathematics.
4th grade reading - Maryland below national average: Maryland’s fourth grade reading average scale score is 212, down from 220 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 216.
Maryland’s eighth grade reading average scale score is 259, the same as the national average scale score.
Maryland’s fourth grade mathematics average scale score is 229, down from 239 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 235.
Maryland’s eight grade mathematics average scale score is 269, down from 280 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 273
"Maryland student scores followed a national declining trend on the 2022 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), continuing a downward trajectory that began in 2013 and worsened during the pandemic."
But sorry, virtual learning and cutting the number of days during the pandemic HAD to have impacted Maryland scores. We are below the national average in 3 of the four tests and the same as the national average in one.
75 percent of Maryland eighth grade students and 69 percent of fourth grade students are at or below basic achievement in mathematics.
4th grade reading - Maryland below national average: Maryland’s fourth grade reading average scale score is 212, down from 220 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 216.
Maryland’s eighth grade reading average scale score is 259, the same as the national average scale score.
Maryland’s fourth grade mathematics average scale score is 229, down from 239 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 235.
Maryland’s eight grade mathematics average scale score is 269, down from 280 in 2019. In comparison, the national average scale score is 273
Anonymous
10/24/2022 12:29
Subject: Re:Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
Anonymous wrote:I would say American kids have a very short year, only 180 days. Compare that to other countries like Japan, England etc.. no wonder our kids are behind. The teachers are not paid well, so there is no incentive to pursue the field of education. It all makes sense. Its abysmal.
And then look at the depression/ anxiety levels of Japanese students. We get it- you want year round babysitting under the guise of education.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 12:24
Subject: Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what test this is?
https://news.maryland.gov/msde/marylands-scores-reflect-nationwide-learning-loss-trends-in-national-assessment-of-educational-progress-naep/
So glad we're in MCPS because we were already more than 5% above the national average!
How do you know this? Where is this information?
One clear indication is on your MAP reports. It lists county vs national scores.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 12:10
Subject: Re:Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
I would say American kids have a very short year, only 180 days. Compare that to other countries like Japan, England etc.. no wonder our kids are behind. The teachers are not paid well, so there is no incentive to pursue the field of education. It all makes sense. Its abysmal.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 12:07
Subject: Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what test this is?
https://news.maryland.gov/msde/marylands-scores-reflect-nationwide-learning-loss-trends-in-national-assessment-of-educational-progress-naep/
So glad we're in MCPS because we were already more than 5% above the national average!
How do you know this? Where is this information?
Anonymous
10/24/2022 11:41
Subject: Re:Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is why we'll never do remote learning ever again.
The data doesn't actually show trends along those lines. States that opened very early had the same drops as states that stayed remote into 2021. There does not seem to be any relationship between duration of distance learning and these trendlines. So, maybe the issue wasn't the virtual learning, per se, but rather just living through a massive traumatic event. More than 200,000 kids lost a parent to covid. There have been more than 1m deaths total in the United States.
That sounds about right but don't try to convince the crazies. They prefer to ignore data.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 11:40
Subject: Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what test this is?
https://news.maryland.gov/msde/marylands-scores-reflect-nationwide-learning-loss-trends-in-national-assessment-of-educational-progress-naep/
So glad we're in MCPS because we were already more than 5% above the national average!
Anonymous
10/24/2022 11:37
Subject: Re:Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
Anonymous wrote:This is why we'll never do remote learning ever again.
The data doesn't actually show trends along those lines. States that opened very early had the same drops as states that stayed remote into 2021. There does not seem to be any relationship between duration of distance learning and these trendlines. So, maybe the issue wasn't the virtual learning, per se, but rather just living through a massive traumatic event. More than 200,000 kids lost a parent to covid. There have been more than 1m deaths total in the United States.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 10:38
Subject: Re:Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
This is why we'll never do remote learning ever again.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 10:36
Subject: Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what test this is?
https://news.maryland.gov/msde/marylands-scores-reflect-nationwide-learning-loss-trends-in-national-assessment-of-educational-progress-naep/
Either way, we need to throw more money to close the achievement/learning/opportunity gaps!
My suggestion: Put more money to reduce Focus schools' class size to under 15, Title I schools' class size to under 12. Everyone else can have their class size increase to 30.
Anonymous
10/24/2022 09:57
Subject: Nations Report Card - Math/Reading Proficiency drops