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Anonymous wrote:complex anti-heros

Mme Flaubert, etc

I like this in concept but I've seen it executed better in comics and movies then in novels. It's too easy for the anti hero to just be a jerk or evil. I'm thinking about a series I just reread by Michael Sullivan (the Rivera Chronicles) and the two main characters have something of this, but sometimes it's pushed too much towards wanting to call them heroes and sometimes towards wanting to call them villans.

I know this is a book thread. But I just watched Daredevil the series on Netflix and he's either a hero or an anti hero, but it's a difficult line to see because he wants to do the right thing but not through certain means but even then he sometimes is willing to do really bad things g to bad people. I honestly wish it was a book so I could get even more into the characters.

You've read Madame Flaubert?

Anonymous wrote:I read a lot of books along the lines of "woman is dissatisfied with her life so she does something radical to shake up her life, then lives happily ever after."

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Anonymous wrote:complex anti-heros

Mme Flaubert, etc

I like this in concept but I've seen it executed better in comics and movies then in novels. It's too easy for the anti hero to just be a jerk or evil. I'm thinking about a series I just reread by Michael Sullivan (the Rivera Chronicles) and the two main characters have something of this, but sometimes it's pushed too much towards wanting to call them heroes and sometimes towards wanting to call them villans.

I know this is a book thread. But I just watched Daredevil the series on Netflix and he's either a hero or an anti hero, but it's a difficult line to see because he wants to do the right thing but not through certain means but even then he sometimes is willing to do really bad things g to bad people. I honestly wish it was a book so I could get even more into the characters.

Anonymous wrote:complex anti-heros

Mme Flaubert, etc

Anonymous wrote:I opened this to say Wallender also! (pp, I would just start with the first one). I also think Thomas Cromwell in the Bring Up the Bodies series is a great character-it's fascinating how Mantel develops interiority for this character who exists before the age of psychology.

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Anonymous wrote:One of my favorite characters among all the books I've read is Morgaine (aka Morgan le Fay, King Arthur's sister) from The Mists of Avalon. She is complicated, passionate, flawed, and deeply human. I have a lot of criticisms about the book itself, but Morgaine's character has stayed with me ever since I first read the book in HS, and then through numerous re-readings.

Another is Kurt Wallander, of the Wallander mystery series. I post a lot on DCUM about Nordic noir, as it's one of my favorite genres; this is the series that got me into it. Wallander, a police officer in a town in Sweden, is methodical in his investigations and considered an ace on the police force. But he's also deeply human--a divorced father of an adult daughter, a son worrying about his own aging father (with whom he has a very complicated relationship), a lonely soul looking for love, and a worrier, uncertain about his place in a changing Sweden. Over the 10 or so books of the series, you really get to see his character evolve.

Do you have a favorite in the Kurt Wallander series? I could start with the first one, but if there’s another one that’s more likely to pull me into reading the series, I’d appreciate recommendations.

My favorite was actually Book 3 in the series: The White Lioness. This is probably one series that is better suited for reading chronologically, so you get the full sense of the character's evolution and progression, but Book 3 is far better and more complex than Books 1 and 2. Book 3 rehashes to a certain extent Wallander's personal background (e.g. his divorce, relationship with his adult daughter and father, etc.) and place within the police force so it's not like you miss a ton of key information if you started right with Book 3.

A close second is One Step Behind (book 7).

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Anonymous wrote:One of my favorite characters among all the books I've read is Morgaine (aka Morgan le Fay, King Arthur's sister) from The Mists of Avalon. She is complicated, passionate, flawed, and deeply human. I have a lot of criticisms about the book itself, but Morgaine's character has stayed with me ever since I first read the book in HS, and then through numerous re-readings.

Another is Kurt Wallander, of the Wallander mystery series. I post a lot on DCUM about Nordic noir, as it's one of my favorite genres; this is the series that got me into it. Wallander, a police officer in a town in Sweden, is methodical in his investigations and considered an ace on the police force. But he's also deeply human--a divorced father of an adult daughter, a son worrying about his own aging father (with whom he has a very complicated relationship), a lonely soul looking for love, and a worrier, uncertain about his place in a changing Sweden. Over the 10 or so books of the series, you really get to see his character evolve.

Do you have a favorite in the Kurt Wallander series? I could start with the first one, but if there’s another one that’s more likely to pull me into reading the series, I’d appreciate recommendations.

Anonymous wrote:One of my favorite characters among all the books I've read is Morgaine (aka Morgan le Fay, King Arthur's sister) from The Mists of Avalon. She is complicated, passionate, flawed, and deeply human. I have a lot of criticisms about the book itself, but Morgaine's character has stayed with me ever since I first read the book in HS, and then through numerous re-readings.

Another is Kurt Wallander, of the Wallander mystery series. I post a lot on DCUM about Nordic noir, as it's one of my favorite genres; this is the series that got me into it. Wallander, a police officer in a town in Sweden, is methodical in his investigations and considered an ace on the police force. But he's also deeply human--a divorced father of an adult daughter, a son worrying about his own aging father (with whom he has a very complicated relationship), a lonely soul looking for love, and a worrier, uncertain about his place in a changing Sweden. Over the 10 or so books of the series, you really get to see his character evolve.