Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 11:36     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people cannot afford to do this


The people who cannot afford to do this don’t really need to save this much. Median HHI is around $78K and everyone knows that 20% of income needs to be set aside for retirement savings. That’s only $15,600 needed per year, so no need to save more by traditional standards.

The real concern is for those families that make more than $145K per year. The $29K allowance between 401k and IRA contributions isn’t really enough for these people. Congress should change the rules so that pre-tax contribution limits vary as a percentage of HHI so that everyone is permitted to save 20% of their income for retirement. This is especially true for high HHI families since social security replaces a lesser percentage of income as income increases. DH and I both work, but the $58K allowance between our collective retirement plans isn’t even 10% of our HHI. And we don’t even get a tax break on the IRA contributions anyway. So illogical and unfair. LMC and MC families don’t know how lucky they are!


You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 11:35     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people cannot afford to do this


The people who cannot afford to do this don’t really need to save this much. Median HHI is around $78K and everyone knows that 20% of income needs to be set aside for retirement savings. That’s only $15,600 needed per year, so no need to save more by traditional standards.

The real concern is for those families that make more than $145K per year. The $29K allowance between 401k and IRA contributions isn’t really enough for these people. Congress should change the rules so that pre-tax contribution limits vary as a percentage of HHI so that everyone is permitted to save 20% of their income for retirement. This is especially true for high HHI families since social security replaces a lesser percentage of income as income increases. DH and I both work, but the $58K allowance between our collective retirement plans isn’t even 10% of our HHI. And we don’t even get a tax break on the IRA contributions anyway. So illogical and unfair. LMC and MC families don’t know how lucky they are!

They don’t know how lucky they are making just a fraction of your income?
Never change, DCUM.


+1 is this person serious
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 11:20     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Anonymous wrote:The IRS is increasing the limits for 401k, 403b, etc up to $22,500 next year and the IRA limit is increasing from $6,000 to $6,500. Good news for those who want to save more pre-tax next year.

https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-business-441920f23fee68afd8a389470ab28013


And catch up is going up to 7500. For older folks, total of 30k per year.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 10:48     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people cannot afford to do this


The people who cannot afford to do this don’t really need to save this much. Median HHI is around $78K and everyone knows that 20% of income needs to be set aside for retirement savings. That’s only $15,600 needed per year, so no need to save more by traditional standards.

The real concern is for those families that make more than $145K per year. The $29K allowance between 401k and IRA contributions isn’t really enough for these people. Congress should change the rules so that pre-tax contribution limits vary as a percentage of HHI so that everyone is permitted to save 20% of their income for retirement. This is especially true for high HHI families since social security replaces a lesser percentage of income as income increases. DH and I both work, but the $58K allowance between our collective retirement plans isn’t even 10% of our HHI. And we don’t even get a tax break on the IRA contributions anyway. So illogical and unfair. LMC and MC families don’t know how lucky they are!


With the mega Roth IRA you can put away $66,000 per person per year plus back door Roth of $6500 per person.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 10:40     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people cannot afford to do this


The people who cannot afford to do this don’t really need to save this much. Median HHI is around $78K and everyone knows that 20% of income needs to be set aside for retirement savings. That’s only $15,600 needed per year, so no need to save more by traditional standards.

The real concern is for those families that make more than $145K per year. The $29K allowance between 401k and IRA contributions isn’t really enough for these people. Congress should change the rules so that pre-tax contribution limits vary as a percentage of HHI so that everyone is permitted to save 20% of their income for retirement. This is especially true for high HHI families since social security replaces a lesser percentage of income as income increases. DH and I both work, but the $58K allowance between our collective retirement plans isn’t even 10% of our HHI. And we don’t even get a tax break on the IRA contributions anyway. So illogical and unfair. LMC and MC families don’t know how lucky they are!


Really? I'd rather have twice as much money even if I couldn't put away as high a proportion in taxed advantaged accounts....wouldn't you?
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 10:40     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people cannot afford to do this


The people who cannot afford to do this don’t really need to save this much. Median HHI is around $78K and everyone knows that 20% of income needs to be set aside for retirement savings. That’s only $15,600 needed per year, so no need to save more by traditional standards.

The real concern is for those families that make more than $145K per year. The $29K allowance between 401k and IRA contributions isn’t really enough for these people. Congress should change the rules so that pre-tax contribution limits vary as a percentage of HHI so that everyone is permitted to save 20% of their income for retirement. This is especially true for high HHI families since social security replaces a lesser percentage of income as income increases. DH and I both work, but the $58K allowance between our collective retirement plans isn’t even 10% of our HHI. And we don’t even get a tax break on the IRA contributions anyway. So illogical and unfair. LMC and MC families don’t know how lucky they are!


Totally agree about this. Moderate-to-Higher income earners are penalized throughout the financial system, so while we do have a leg up, the system prevents us from having “too much” of a leg up.


Well don't complain too loudly. One high income person taking a full benefit is usually enough for politicians to completely get rid of them or impose ridiculously low income restrictions.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 10:20     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people cannot afford to do this


The people who cannot afford to do this don’t really need to save this much. Median HHI is around $78K and everyone knows that 20% of income needs to be set aside for retirement savings. That’s only $15,600 needed per year, so no need to save more by traditional standards.

The real concern is for those families that make more than $145K per year. The $29K allowance between 401k and IRA contributions isn’t really enough for these people. Congress should change the rules so that pre-tax contribution limits vary as a percentage of HHI so that everyone is permitted to save 20% of their income for retirement. This is especially true for high HHI families since social security replaces a lesser percentage of income as income increases. DH and I both work, but the $58K allowance between our collective retirement plans isn’t even 10% of our HHI. And we don’t even get a tax break on the IRA contributions anyway. So illogical and unfair. LMC and MC families don’t know how lucky they are!


Totally agree about this. Moderate-to-Higher income earners are penalized throughout the financial system, so while we do have a leg up, the system prevents us from having “too much” of a leg up.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 10:15     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people cannot afford to do this


The people who cannot afford to do this don’t really need to save this much. Median HHI is around $78K and everyone knows that 20% of income needs to be set aside for retirement savings. That’s only $15,600 needed per year, so no need to save more by traditional standards.

The real concern is for those families that make more than $145K per year. The $29K allowance between 401k and IRA contributions isn’t really enough for these people. Congress should change the rules so that pre-tax contribution limits vary as a percentage of HHI so that everyone is permitted to save 20% of their income for retirement. This is especially true for high HHI families since social security replaces a lesser percentage of income as income increases. DH and I both work, but the $58K allowance between our collective retirement plans isn’t even 10% of our HHI. And we don’t even get a tax break on the IRA contributions anyway. So illogical and unfair. LMC and MC families don’t know how lucky they are!

They don’t know how lucky they are making just a fraction of your income?
Never change, DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 10:14     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people cannot afford to do this


The people who cannot afford to do this don’t really need to save this much. Median HHI is around $78K and everyone knows that 20% of income needs to be set aside for retirement savings. That’s only $15,600 needed per year, so no need to save more by traditional standards.

The real concern is for those families that make more than $145K per year. The $29K allowance between 401k and IRA contributions isn’t really enough for these people. Congress should change the rules so that pre-tax contribution limits vary as a percentage of HHI so that everyone is permitted to save 20% of their income for retirement. This is especially true for high HHI families since social security replaces a lesser percentage of income as income increases. DH and I both work, but the $58K allowance between our collective retirement plans isn’t even 10% of our HHI. And we don’t even get a tax break on the IRA contributions anyway. So illogical and unfair. LMC and MC families don’t know how lucky they are!


never change DCUM!
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 10:00     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Anonymous wrote:Most people cannot afford to do this


The people who cannot afford to do this don’t really need to save this much. Median HHI is around $78K and everyone knows that 20% of income needs to be set aside for retirement savings. That’s only $15,600 needed per year, so no need to save more by traditional standards.

The real concern is for those families that make more than $145K per year. The $29K allowance between 401k and IRA contributions isn’t really enough for these people. Congress should change the rules so that pre-tax contribution limits vary as a percentage of HHI so that everyone is permitted to save 20% of their income for retirement. This is especially true for high HHI families since social security replaces a lesser percentage of income as income increases. DH and I both work, but the $58K allowance between our collective retirement plans isn’t even 10% of our HHI. And we don’t even get a tax break on the IRA contributions anyway. So illogical and unfair. LMC and MC families don’t know how lucky they are!
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 08:41     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Most people cannot afford to do this
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 08:41     Subject: Re:401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Thanks for posting!
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 08:39     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

Damn
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 08:20     Subject: Re:401k savings limit to increase in 2023

True.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2022 04:09     Subject: 401k savings limit to increase in 2023

The IRS is increasing the limits for 401k, 403b, etc up to $22,500 next year and the IRA limit is increasing from $6,000 to $6,500. Good news for those who want to save more pre-tax next year.

https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-business-441920f23fee68afd8a389470ab28013