It was groundbreaking at the time. Now the new episodes (And Just Like That) just appear dated.. no ground to break I guess.

Anonymous wrote:IMHO, the first season was the best. It was set up as a sort-of anthropomorphic look at dating in NYC. It was fun and fresh and really funny "I don't want to be the ___ girl! I went to Smith!). Then it got all soap-opery and people took it way to seriously.

You don’t know what anthropomorphic means. It’s attributing human traits to an animal.

Anonymous wrote:

Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

It's been like 20 years since I was into it but wasn't Steve a bartender and lived in squalor? Bartenders are generally all unmotivated dummies who quit college. The mere act of pissing adulthood away at a dead-end servant job with no health insurance and no retirement proves you're an idiot. Pretending Steve's some erudite bartender because he had a book in his hand is pretty cringe.

Wow!! I am sure you are a pleasure to hang out with.

i still order cosmos!

IMHO, the first season was the best. It was set up as a sort-of anthropomorphic look at dating in NYC. It was fun and fresh and really funny "I don't want to be the ___ girl! I went to Smith!). Then it got all soap-opery and people took it way to seriously.

Anonymous wrote:

Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

It's been like 20 years since I was into it but wasn't Steve a bartender and lived in squalor? Bartenders are generally all unmotivated dummies who quit college. The mere act of pissing adulthood away at a dead-end servant job with no health insurance and no retirement proves you're an idiot. Pretending Steve's some erudite bartender because he had a book in his hand is pretty cringe.

Speaking of cringe…

Anonymous wrote:

Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

It's been like 20 years since I was into it but wasn't Steve a bartender and lived in squalor? Bartenders are generally all unmotivated dummies who quit college. The mere act of pissing adulthood away at a dead-end servant job with no health insurance and no retirement proves you're an idiot. Pretending Steve's some erudite bartender because he had a book in his hand is pretty cringe.

First of all, you're weird.

Second of all, it's not just that he was reading a book - he spoke differently. He had insight into Miranda and the world. He was smart. They dumbed him way down as the show went on. You understood why Miranda would like him and want to be with him, back then.

I don't remember what his apartment looked like. But you've got to get out more, that I do know.

I miss the days when we didn’t have cell phones and had to pass the time differently, like talk to people!

The lack of cell phones and being alone at a restaurant reminds me of that scene in Forgetting Sarah Marshall (2008) when Jonah Hill offers a solo Jason Segal some magazines to read at dinner.

Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

It's been like 20 years since I was into it but wasn't Steve a bartender and lived in squalor? Bartenders are generally all unmotivated dummies who quit college. The mere act of pissing adulthood away at a dead-end servant job with no health insurance and no retirement proves you're an idiot. Pretending Steve's some erudite bartender because he had a book in his hand is pretty cringe.

Anonymous wrote:Remember when we all drank cosmos?

They tasted good!

Anonymous wrote:This is funny because last night I watched the first two episodes of ...And just like that, and... they were as terrible as everyone said they were. So bad. It's a train wreck. It's nice to read your summary of a rewatch of the original show because it's reminding me that the original show had some actual good qualities. The movies and AJLT are so painfully bad, like they took the worst things about the original series and decided they wanted more and worse. Ugh.

This is OP - and I actually sort of liked AJLT (I know!). But re-watching the OG SATC, it's just so different. The characters had so much more life in them.

The movies are an abomination. You're totally right - they took the worst parts of the show, and went all in.

This is funny because last night I watched the first two episodes of ...And just like that, and... they were as terrible as everyone said they were. So bad. It's a train wreck. It's nice to read your summary of a rewatch of the original show because it's reminding me that the original show had some actual good qualities. The movies and AJLT are so painfully bad, like they took the worst things about the original series and decided they wanted more and worse. Ugh.

Remember when we all drank cosmos?

just binged a few early episodes yesterday - season 2 - and:

No one had cell phones! Gd I forgot that we just sort of went about our lives without computers in our pockets back then. There was that episode when Big and Carrie went to their friends' wedding, and he took a call while she was reading a poem she'd written - and he was the only one with a cell phone, and was a total turd about cell phone etiquette (which was the point). Another scene where Samantha gets stood up for dinner (by the "we guy") and she's sitting at the table without a book and nothing to occupy herself. Now you'd just scroll Twitter or whatever. It'd be fine.

Steve was a totally different person! He was reading HEMINGWAY when he and Miranda met. He was complaining about the NYU kids wanting to talk about (I can't remember what, I'm sick, some philosopher or indie band). Why did they Flanderize him? Is that a statement about how we lose ourselves when we get older - or did they just forget he's not an idiot? (See also: Dean on GG.)

Carrie was so much more fun and easygoing. She had a joy about her back then. Made terrible choices, was a selfish person a lot of the time, etc etc etc - but she was fun. She glowed. She got so much more brittle as the series went on. Maybe that was a character choice, again, or maybe they just forgot how to write her.

Why didn't they make Miranda gay from the start?

Lots of fun cameos (and one that yick - Trump was in there for a whole 2 seconds, and YUCK). Saw Bradley Cooper as a momentary hot guy. He was young. We were all young.

They really only dated Wall Street guys, eh? Or mostly. I guess that was the world that Candace Bushnell lived in! I really enjoyed the SATC book way back when, too.

I wish they'd kept up the concept of having people around New York talk about their thoughts re: the topic of the week, like they did in those early seasons. It was fun. It also helped hold together the idea that each week was about a column being lived, reported, and written.

Anyway - it's a great COVID binge, and I don't think that's just the fever talking.