At least people should discuss the appropriateness of "college for all" when 42% of test takers met NONE of the college readiness benchmarks. We need alternatives that send kids into the world with the capacity to work. If not attending college, they need basic reading and math, along with a vocational skill. But because we are hung up on equity, we would rather pretend that somehow ALL of the kids will become lawyers, and instead graduate illiterates.

Anonymous wrote:Not concerning in the least.

Why are you on an Education forum then? The fact that U.S. students are less capable despite the billions of dollars poured into their education is disturbing, and yes, worthy of "concern."

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Anonymous wrote:This is very, very concerning. I understand that the pandemic was very disruptive but an average composite score of 19.8 is horrifying. It's the first time since 1991 that the average ACT composite score was below 20. Something needs to change!

https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-school-class-2022-lowest-act-scores-30/story?id=91497084

My kid and a lot of other kids didn’t study at all for the ACT because they have no intention of submitting scores.

You don't need to study to get a decent score.

He got a decent score. But it’s lower than it would have been if he’d studied, and this thread is about how scores have dropped.

The lack of studying doesn't explain away the 19.8 average. That's the point.

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Anonymous wrote:Many public school districts are now giving standardized tests during school. When I took the SATs, you have to sign up for it, pay and then take it at the crack of dawn on a Saturday. Who took the test? Students headed to college. Who didn't take the test? Students not going to college. These days, college is pushed on every student, even if they aren't prepared for it. That's where those scores come from.

Good point. In fact, in my state, in order to receive a high school diploma you must take the SAT your junior year. It is part of the state's mandated curriculum.

And last year was the first year for this requirement?

Which state is this? And do students have to pay for the test that a lot of c colleges are making optional?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is very, very concerning. I understand that the pandemic was very disruptive but an average composite score of 19.8 is horrifying. It's the first time since 1991 that the average ACT composite score was below 20. Something needs to change!

https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-school-class-2022-lowest-act-scores-30/story?id=91497084

My kid and a lot of other kids didn’t study at all for the ACT because they have no intention of submitting scores.

You don't need to study to get a decent score.

He got a decent score. But it’s lower than it would have been if he’d studied, and this thread is about how scores have dropped.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is very, very concerning. I understand that the pandemic was very disruptive but an average composite score of 19.8 is horrifying. It's the first time since 1991 that the average ACT composite score was below 20. Something needs to change!

https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-school-class-2022-lowest-act-scores-30/story?id=91497084

My kid and a lot of other kids didn’t study at all for the ACT because they have no intention of submitting scores.

You don't need to study to get a decent score.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many public school districts are now giving standardized tests during school. When I took the SATs, you have to sign up for it, pay and then take it at the crack of dawn on a Saturday. Who took the test? Students headed to college. Who didn't take the test? Students not going to college. These days, college is pushed on every student, even if they aren't prepared for it. That's where those scores come from.

Good point. In fact, in my state, in order to receive a high school diploma you must take the SAT your junior year. It is part of the state's mandated curriculum.

And last year was the first year for this requirement?

Anonymous wrote:My second child refused to take the SAT because he said it was a racket. He's not wrong.

Yes he is.

Not concerning in the least.

My second child refused to take the SAT because he said it was a racket. He's not wrong.

Anonymous wrote:This is very, very concerning. I understand that the pandemic was very disruptive but an average composite score of 19.8 is horrifying. It's the first time since 1991 that the average ACT composite score was below 20. Something needs to change!

https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-school-class-2022-lowest-act-scores-30/story?id=91497084

My kid and a lot of other kids didn’t study at all for the ACT because they have no intention of submitting scores.

Anonymous wrote:Many public school districts are now giving standardized tests during school. When I took the SATs, you have to sign up for it, pay and then take it at the crack of dawn on a Saturday. Who took the test? Students headed to college. Who didn't take the test? Students not going to college. These days, college is pushed on every student, even if they aren't prepared for it. That's where those scores come from.

So true. It is sad though, isn't it? Like many of us here, we live in a highly competitive area. My DD was disappointed in her score of 32... the difference in experiences and education throughout this country is shocking.

Anonymous wrote:Many public school districts are now giving standardized tests during school. When I took the SATs, you have to sign up for it, pay and then take it at the crack of dawn on a Saturday. Who took the test? Students headed to college. Who didn't take the test? Students not going to college. These days, college is pushed on every student, even if they aren't prepared for it. That's where those scores come from.

Good point. In fact, in my state, in order to receive a high school diploma you must take the SAT your junior year. It is part of the state's mandated curriculum.

Many public school districts are now giving standardized tests during school. When I took the SATs, you have to sign up for it, pay and then take it at the crack of dawn on a Saturday. Who took the test? Students headed to college. Who didn't take the test? Students not going to college. These days, college is pushed on every student, even if they aren't prepared for it. That's where those scores come from.

This is very, very concerning. I understand that the pandemic was very disruptive but an average composite score of 19.8 is horrifying. It's the first time since 1991 that the average ACT composite score was below 20. Something needs to change!

https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-school-class-2022-lowest-act-scores-30/story?id=91497084