Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a crazy idea. Forget about paying for degrees and pay people based on performance! I know it's crazy, right?

Then you would have an even bigger problem since nobody would want to work in high poverty schools.

Oh that's so silly. You simply measure the teacher's impact before and after as compared to similar cohorts same with wealthy schools.

Anonymous wrote:Here's a crazy idea. Forget about paying for degrees and pay people based on performance! I know it's crazy, right?

Then you would have an even bigger problem since nobody would want to work in high poverty schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a crazy idea. Forget about paying for degrees and pay people based on performance! I know it's crazy, right?

Measured how, exactly?

What a crazy question. It shows how removed you are from reality. P
Your performance is judged by how well your students perform.

Crappy teachers with high income students do great at standardized tests

Amazing teachers with low income students don’t do as well on them

Should the crap teacher be rewarded with a higher pay just because the kids she teaches attend a school with high test scores, and live in 1 million dollar neighborhoods and are fortunate to have professional, highly invested parents?

Yep. Some people are just clueless on how school works but want to tell them how it should work.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a crazy idea. Forget about paying for degrees and pay people based on performance! I know it's crazy, right?

Measured how, exactly?

What a crazy question. It shows how removed you are from reality. P
Your performance is judged by how well your students perform.

Oh look! DCUM just solves decades of educational research in 2 minutes! (Duh, of course they did, because teachers are StUpId so we obviously couldn’t figure it out)

Most likely not. You need 60 course credits. But, if you have a Masters plus 50 already then you would just need 10 more and it's not hard to get. MCPS will pay for 9 credits per year from outside places. And they offer some through MCPS as well - you pay for those but they are super cheap.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a crazy idea. Forget about paying for degrees and pay people based on performance! I know it's crazy, right?

Measured how, exactly?

What a crazy question. It shows how removed you are from reality. P
Your performance is judged by how well your students perform.

Crappy teachers with high income students do great at standardized tests

Amazing teachers with low income students don’t do as well on them

Should the crap teacher be rewarded with a higher pay just because the kids she teaches attend a school with high test scores, and live in 1 million dollar neighborhoods and are fortunate to have professional, highly invested parents?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a crazy idea. Forget about paying for degrees and pay people based on performance! I know it's crazy, right?

Measured how, exactly?

What a crazy question. It shows how removed you are from reality. P
Your performance is judged by how well your students perform.

According to this, MCPS teacher's salary is based on degree attainment (course credits) and experience.

Anonymous wrote:Here's a crazy idea. Forget about paying for degrees and pay people based on performance! I know it's crazy, right?

Salary should br based on both performance and degree attainment.

Anonymous wrote:Here's a crazy idea. Forget about paying for degrees and pay people based on performance! I know it's crazy, right?

Measured how, exactly?

Here's a crazy idea. Forget about paying for degrees and pay people based on performance! I know it's crazy, right?

Why is there not a separate lane for people with doctorates? I work for Baltimore county and we get a separate (higher) scale than people with Masters degrees.

DH used to work for MCPS (he quit in 21). He has a Ph.D in his field. I have MA +60 (I think I’m actually +90-something, but there’s no level for that). I’m year 21 and make what he made 5 years ago.

They only count coursework. Your master’s gets you to “master’s”. +30 should be your required courses in education (assuming you are a career changer). Any coursework after your master’s will count towards the next 30 credits to get to +60. The PhD itself isn’t +60. They evaluate courses completed on transcripts. You can ask for an explanation from the cert office and they should be able to give a detailed listing of how your transcripts were accounted for.

I'm recently hired as an MCPS teacher and trying to understand what salary lane I'm in. I took graduate courses (approx 50 course credits) to get my Master of Science. However, from Master to PhD, it's all independent research (no classes, no course credits). Does it mean none of my non-course PhD work count as credits when MCPS is deciding on the salary lane? Meaning, my PhD doesn't give put me on a higher salary lane? So, the Master +60 salary lane is for 60+ COURSE credit only?