Anonymous
Post 10/09/2022 12:46     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

Anonymous wrote:First Alg 2 poster. Many of my students can’t do any basic computation without a calculator. I’m trying to teach them how to use a calculator along with the factoring. Some have never touched a graphing calculator before because along with Photomath, they have only used Desmos. That is another big issue. Yes, they can use Desmos on the SOL but they no longer take SOLs and they can’t use Desmos on classroom tests since they are on paper. There is no hiding behind tech anymore. That’s what parents are seeing.


Why was Desmond taught and used then if eventually they cannot use it? Why wasn’t a traditional graphing calculator taught and used during virtual learning?
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2022 11:58     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

First Alg 2 poster. Many of my students can’t do any basic computation without a calculator. I’m trying to teach them how to use a calculator along with the factoring. Some have never touched a graphing calculator before because along with Photomath, they have only used Desmos. That is another big issue. Yes, they can use Desmos on the SOL but they no longer take SOLs and they can’t use Desmos on classroom tests since they are on paper. There is no hiding behind tech anymore. That’s what parents are seeing.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2022 10:44     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

Pp again.

I agree that a disturbing number of them can’t solve a basic equation. We are running advisory groups this year for kids in all levels of HS math who can’t solve 1 and 2 step equations and they are full.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2022 10:42     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Third algebra 2 teacher, confirming everything stated above.

I usually spend 2.5 days reviewing factoring (algebra 1 spends weeks on it), give a short quiz, and then move on to the actual factoring applications that are in our curriculum. This year I’ve spent 5 days on it so far this year and kids are still struggling. So many of them didn’t get anything out of virtual (thanks, photomath) and those choices are coming back to haunt them this year.

I added extra days here because this skill is so critical to the rest of the year, but I can’t do it for every unit. Kids are going to have to get help outside class, whether from me, khan academy, or an outside tutor.


First Alg 2 teacher back again. I was referring to factoring in my post. We taught it this year like it was brand new and like they had never seen it before. They should have spent a significant amount of time factoring in Algebra 1. When the test came, many students could factor a basic quadratic or take out a GCF still. Like this poster said, we can’t spend so many days reviewing Alg 1 in every chapter. They will need outside help or drop to AFDA if they can.


You must be teaching at really high-performing schools. Consider yourself lucky if it's factoring they're starting to struggle at. I have a fair number of students who can't solve one or two-step equations, don't know the difference between exponents and multiplication, can't manipulate fractions, or don't know that 5 times 0 is 0.We reviewed all these skills at the beginning of the year but they still don't get it. Some of these gaps go back to well before the pandemic. They were sort of hanging on in math and a year of photomath sank them further.


Lol, I’m at a “high performing school” and my kids still can’t do 5x1 without a calculator.

The difference is that skill can be avoided by using a calculator so while I keep working it all year, we can move on while it grows. Factoring can’t be avoided and can’t be solved with simple calculator work (I know there is plysmlt but at that point I feel like it’s as much work to use and interpret as it is to teach the math skills.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2022 08:55     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

Anonymous wrote:I struggled with Algebra 2 25 years ago. It’s a challenging course period.


Some of these concepts are tricky. I am a MS Algebra teacher.
OP: I’d get a tutor and have them review concepts in Khan Academy.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2022 08:48     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Third algebra 2 teacher, confirming everything stated above.

I usually spend 2.5 days reviewing factoring (algebra 1 spends weeks on it), give a short quiz, and then move on to the actual factoring applications that are in our curriculum. This year I’ve spent 5 days on it so far this year and kids are still struggling. So many of them didn’t get anything out of virtual (thanks, photomath) and those choices are coming back to haunt them this year.

I added extra days here because this skill is so critical to the rest of the year, but I can’t do it for every unit. Kids are going to have to get help outside class, whether from me, khan academy, or an outside tutor.


First Alg 2 teacher back again. I was referring to factoring in my post. We taught it this year like it was brand new and like they had never seen it before. They should have spent a significant amount of time factoring in Algebra 1. When the test came, many students could factor a basic quadratic or take out a GCF still. Like this poster said, we can’t spend so many days reviewing Alg 1 in every chapter. They will need outside help or drop to AFDA if they can.


You must be teaching at really high-performing schools. Consider yourself lucky if it's factoring they're starting to struggle at. I have a fair number of students who can't solve one or two-step equations, don't know the difference between exponents and multiplication, can't manipulate fractions, or don't know that 5 times 0 is 0.We reviewed all these skills at the beginning of the year but they still don't get it. Some of these gaps go back to well before the pandemic. They were sort of hanging on in math and a year of photomath sank them further.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2022 22:47     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

I struggled with Algebra 2 25 years ago. It’s a challenging course period.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2022 22:32     Subject: Re:Algebra 2 struggle

it moves especially quickly in HALG2/TRIG where they do all of alg 2 in three quarts the fourth being trig
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2022 22:00     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

*could not factor a basic quadratic
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2022 21:58     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

Anonymous wrote:Third algebra 2 teacher, confirming everything stated above.

I usually spend 2.5 days reviewing factoring (algebra 1 spends weeks on it), give a short quiz, and then move on to the actual factoring applications that are in our curriculum. This year I’ve spent 5 days on it so far this year and kids are still struggling. So many of them didn’t get anything out of virtual (thanks, photomath) and those choices are coming back to haunt them this year.

I added extra days here because this skill is so critical to the rest of the year, but I can’t do it for every unit. Kids are going to have to get help outside class, whether from me, khan academy, or an outside tutor.


First Alg 2 teacher back again. I was referring to factoring in my post. We taught it this year like it was brand new and like they had never seen it before. They should have spent a significant amount of time factoring in Algebra 1. When the test came, many students could factor a basic quadratic or take out a GCF still. Like this poster said, we can’t spend so many days reviewing Alg 1 in every chapter. They will need outside help or drop to AFDA if they can.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2022 21:54     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

Third algebra 2 teacher, confirming everything stated above.

I usually spend 2.5 days reviewing factoring (algebra 1 spends weeks on it), give a short quiz, and then move on to the actual factoring applications that are in our curriculum. This year I’ve spent 5 days on it so far this year and kids are still struggling. So many of them didn’t get anything out of virtual (thanks, photomath) and those choices are coming back to haunt them this year.

I added extra days here because this skill is so critical to the rest of the year, but I can’t do it for every unit. Kids are going to have to get help outside class, whether from me, khan academy, or an outside tutor.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2022 21:45     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

Anonymous wrote:I am an Algebra 2 teacher. This year is especially hard because most of these students had Algebra 1 during the year that was mostly virtual. Some really focused and tried their best. Many did not. Some students told me how they got through by using one of the many problem solver websites or apps to cheat on tests. These students had geometry in person last year but that course is different and some of the gaps are just now appearing.

I spent more time than usual reviewing Alg 1 during the first unit. After my first test I have many students with As and many with Fs. I’ll continue to review as much as I can but many of them will need to see me outside of class and put in a lot of hard work to make up for the gaps.


Another Algebra 2 teacher here and I agree 100% with this. Just to add that we could often tell there was cheating going on at all math levels (student perfectly solves one problem using a more advanced method we haven't taught them, or solves it perfectly we we ask one way and then bombs the same problem half a page down because it's been laid out in a way that's not math app friendly) but it would have been too difficult to prove and we didn't want to get parents on our backs in what was already an incredibly difficult year.

We can now clearly see who learned the material and who didn't. Many of those who didn't are going to end up retaking in summer school unless there's room for them to drop down to AFDA.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2022 20:51     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

NP here. I really appreciate your post, PP
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2022 19:19     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

I am an Algebra 2 teacher. This year is especially hard because most of these students had Algebra 1 during the year that was mostly virtual. Some really focused and tried their best. Many did not. Some students told me how they got through by using one of the many problem solver websites or apps to cheat on tests. These students had geometry in person last year but that course is different and some of the gaps are just now appearing.

I spent more time than usual reviewing Alg 1 during the first unit. After my first test I have many students with As and many with Fs. I’ll continue to review as much as I can but many of them will need to see me outside of class and put in a lot of hard work to make up for the gaps.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2022 19:08     Subject: Algebra 2 struggle

Anyone else have a kid who struggled or is struggling with this class? 2 tests in and my kid is failing. Kid has always been strong in math. Even after getting help from a tutor. I don't know what else to do for DC. Seems like lots of kids in the class are having a hard time. The teacher told them that the class average is a 68 right now. Is this normal??