Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 10:31     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW


Wow, is UChicago paying US News or something? Because it looks like they do much worse on every ranking that is not US News. Really puts them in a different light once you look outside the US News tunnel. Same with Johns Hopkins, it dropped dramatically once you look outside US News.


Both U. Chicago and Hopkins are focused on students going onto further studies, which obviously lowers their earning potential 5-10 years out from college.

U. Chicago focuses on graduate/law school rather than sending students to Wall Street/top-tier consulting etc.

Hopkins focuses on pre-med. Otherwise if you look at departmental rankings, Hopkins doesn't do any better than the state flagships in engineering, etc. And it doesn't send many to Wall Street/top-tier consulting. Obviously Hopkin's top tier medical school does not help much for undergraduate education, so not sure why it is such a sought after pre-med destination.

Ironically the culture of stress at these universities probably reduce the students chances of getting into good graduate/law/professional schools.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 10:27     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Anonymous wrote:
From the original post where the data was taken from: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

"In a nutshell, the rankings like Forbes, Washington Monthly, and Money care more about which schools provide high social mobility and opportunity access for lower income students while minimizing debt, rankings like WSJ/THE, Degree Choices, and WalletHub care more about pure earning potential, student outcomes, and ROI, rankings like US News care more about the achievements of students entering the college, the resources of the college, and the reputation of the college, and rankings like Niche care more about the overall student experience beyond just academics, such as student satisfaction/happiness, food, campus life and amenities, etc. So, by finding which schools are the best through an aggregate ranking, we find which schools succeed in all of these manners that singular rankings such as US News or Forbes might undervalue or miss completely."

For UMC, like me, based on above, niche and wallethub rankings are more important.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 10:25     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
people really take time out of their day and cross reference lists to create another list?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 10:21     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
No Brown?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 10:07     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW


Wow, is UChicago paying US News or something? Because it looks like they do much worse on every ranking that is not US News. Really puts them in a different light once you look outside the US News tunnel. Same with Johns Hopkins, it dropped dramatically once you look outside US News.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 10:04     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW


Nice job, although I hate to concede to the Duke and Penn boosters that they may have a point. Hopefully they don't take it as far as HYPPSMD.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 10:02     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW


Why is this methodology useful at all?


From the original post where the data was taken from: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

"In a nutshell, the rankings like Forbes, Washington Monthly, and Money care more about which schools provide high social mobility and opportunity access for lower income students while minimizing debt, rankings like WSJ/THE, Degree Choices, and WalletHub care more about pure earning potential, student outcomes, and ROI, rankings like US News care more about the achievements of students entering the college, the resources of the college, and the reputation of the college, and rankings like Niche care more about the overall student experience beyond just academics, such as student satisfaction/happiness, food, campus life and amenities, etc. So, by finding which schools are the best through an aggregate ranking, we find which schools succeed in all of these manners that singular rankings such as US News or Forbes might undervalue or miss completely."


+1
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 10:01     Subject: Re:The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
This is dumb.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 09:58     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW


Why is this methodology useful at all?


From the original post where the data was taken from: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

"In a nutshell, the rankings like Forbes, Washington Monthly, and Money care more about which schools provide high social mobility and opportunity access for lower income students while minimizing debt, rankings like WSJ/THE, Degree Choices, and WalletHub care more about pure earning potential, student outcomes, and ROI, rankings like US News care more about the achievements of students entering the college, the resources of the college, and the reputation of the college, and rankings like Niche care more about the overall student experience beyond just academics, such as student satisfaction/happiness, food, campus life and amenities, etc. So, by finding which schools are the best through an aggregate ranking, we find which schools succeed in all of these manners that singular rankings such as US News or Forbes might undervalue or miss completely."
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 09:54     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW


Why is this methodology useful at all?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 09:50     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW


It's nice to see public schools near the top 10 overall. Most people don't know this, but in the early days of US News in the 1980s multiple public schools were in or near the top 10. This is definitely a better overall representation than just using US News or Wall Street Journal or Forbes.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 09:48     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW


Very interesting. No Tufts? What ranking did it do bad on to remove it from the top 50?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 09:48     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Anonymous wrote:Lol at GW making this list


GW is a good school though?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 09:46     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
Lol at GW making this list
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2022 09:43     Subject: The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW