Anonymous
10/04/2022 09:24
Subject: Reading Groups
Actually, older students (like fourth graders) do need phonics skills. Just not the basic “short o” type skills you are thinking of. Advanced phonics skills teach them the spelling skills, word chunking, and more that they need for long complicated words.
Anonymous
10/04/2022 08:17
Subject: Re:Reading Groups
Anonymous wrote:I teach 3rd grade at another public county school system. Our small groups are also focused on phonics and phonemic awareness. It’s great for the extremely low students but the on grade level and higher students, it is useless. Once they have shown mastery, I briefly skim through it and the rest is on other reading skills and strategies. I no longer feel like I am teaching 3rd grade. I am teaching what feels, looks and sounds like kindergarten.
Then what are the K-2 teachers teaching?
Anonymous
10/04/2022 08:10
Subject: Re:Reading Groups
I teach 3rd grade at another public county school system. Our small groups are also focused on phonics and phonemic awareness. It’s great for the extremely low students but the on grade level and higher students, it is useless. Once they have shown mastery, I briefly skim through it and the rest is on other reading skills and strategies. I no longer feel like I am teaching 3rd grade. I am teaching what feels, looks and sounds like kindergarten.
Anonymous
10/04/2022 08:09
Subject: Reading Groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We no longer use the DRA. We do use the PRF. Reading groups are still a thing, but they will be more focused on phonics and phonemic awareness.
I haven't started small groups yet. The time has been spent assessing (PRFs, iReady, DSA, VGA). I'll start small groups after I finish assessing using the CORE and PASS assessments. The CORE and PASS are given based on how the students do in the phonics and phonemic awareness sections of the iReady.
My kid doesn’t need phonics and phonemic awareness. She needs comprehension now (4th grade).
This is what you parents have been fighting for and now the pendulum has swung - hope you’re happy!
I am thrilled! I just hope they have given teachers resources to teach it correctly.
Anonymous
10/04/2022 08:04
Subject: Reading Groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We no longer use the DRA. We do use the PRF. Reading groups are still a thing, but they will be more focused on phonics and phonemic awareness.
I haven't started small groups yet. The time has been spent assessing (PRFs, iReady, DSA, VGA). I'll start small groups after I finish assessing using the CORE and PASS assessments. The CORE and PASS are given based on how the students do in the phonics and phonemic awareness sections of the iReady.
My kid doesn’t need phonics and phonemic awareness. She needs comprehension now (4th grade).
This is what you parents have been fighting for and now the pendulum has swung - hope you’re happy!
Pretty much. FCPS has made a big swing in this area. In my entire 3 decade teaching career I had never taught students abput open and closed vowels. I don’t remember learning it when I was in school, but I know it now.
Yep! I’m surprised the Internet didn’t break that week with every teacher in FCPS googling it at the same time.
Anonymous
10/04/2022 07:42
Subject: Reading Groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We no longer use the DRA. We do use the PRF. Reading groups are still a thing, but they will be more focused on phonics and phonemic awareness.
I haven't started small groups yet. The time has been spent assessing (PRFs, iReady, DSA, VGA). I'll start small groups after I finish assessing using the CORE and PASS assessments. The CORE and PASS are given based on how the students do in the phonics and phonemic awareness sections of the iReady.
My kid doesn’t need phonics and phonemic awareness. She needs comprehension now (4th grade).
This is what you parents have been fighting for and now the pendulum has swung - hope you’re happy!
Pretty much. FCPS has made a big swing in this area. In my entire 3 decade teaching career I had never taught students abput open and closed vowels. I don’t remember learning it when I was in school, but I know it now.
Anonymous
10/04/2022 06:54
Subject: Reading Groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We no longer use the DRA. We do use the PRF. Reading groups are still a thing, but they will be more focused on phonics and phonemic awareness.
I haven't started small groups yet. The time has been spent assessing (PRFs, iReady, DSA, VGA). I'll start small groups after I finish assessing using the CORE and PASS assessments. The CORE and PASS are given based on how the students do in the phonics and phonemic awareness sections of the iReady.
My kid doesn’t need phonics and phonemic awareness. She needs comprehension now (4th grade).
This is what you parents have been fighting for and now the pendulum has swung - hope you’re happy!
If they are truly doing phonics and phonemic awareness in fourth grade it is because kids didn’t learn anything from FCPS from k-3 that gives them the ability to read. Glad FCPS is actually using an actual reading program instead of guessing.
Anonymous
10/04/2022 06:37
Subject: Reading Groups
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We no longer use the DRA. We do use the PRF. Reading groups are still a thing, but they will be more focused on phonics and phonemic awareness.
I haven't started small groups yet. The time has been spent assessing (PRFs, iReady, DSA, VGA). I'll start small groups after I finish assessing using the CORE and PASS assessments. The CORE and PASS are given based on how the students do in the phonics and phonemic awareness sections of the iReady.
My kid doesn’t need phonics and phonemic awareness. She needs comprehension now (4th grade).
This is what you parents have been fighting for and now the pendulum has swung - hope you’re happy!
Anonymous
10/04/2022 06:34
Subject: Reading Groups
Anonymous wrote:We no longer use the DRA. We do use the PRF. Reading groups are still a thing, but they will be more focused on phonics and phonemic awareness.
I haven't started small groups yet. The time has been spent assessing (PRFs, iReady, DSA, VGA). I'll start small groups after I finish assessing using the CORE and PASS assessments. The CORE and PASS are given based on how the students do in the phonics and phonemic awareness sections of the iReady.
My kid doesn’t need phonics and phonemic awareness. She needs comprehension now (4th grade).
Anonymous
10/04/2022 05:45
Subject: Reading Groups
Anonymous wrote:We no longer use the DRA. We do use the PRF. Reading groups are still a thing, but they will be more focused on phonics and phonemic awareness.
I haven't started small groups yet. The time has been spent assessing (PRFs, iReady, DSA, VGA). I'll start small groups after I finish assessing using the CORE and PASS assessments. The CORE and PASS are given based on how the students do in the phonics and phonemic awareness sections of the iReady.
This. Groups haven’t started yet. We’re working with our literacy specialist about launching small groups this month.
Anonymous
10/03/2022 22:59
Subject: Reading Groups
PP, thank you for that info
Anonymous
10/03/2022 22:54
Subject: Reading Groups
We no longer use the DRA. We do use the PRF. Reading groups are still a thing, but they will be more focused on phonics and phonemic awareness.
I haven't started small groups yet. The time has been spent assessing (PRFs, iReady, DSA, VGA). I'll start small groups after I finish assessing using the CORE and PASS assessments. The CORE and PASS are given based on how the students do in the phonics and phonemic awareness sections of the iReady.
I haven't started small groups yet. The time has been spent assessing (PRFs, iReady, DSA, VGA). I'll start small groups after I finish assessing using the CORE and PASS assessments. The CORE and PASS are given based on how the students do in the phonics and phonemic awareness sections of the iReady.
Anonymous
10/03/2022 22:45
Subject: Reading Groups
What is the approach now?
Anonymous
10/03/2022 22:36
Subject: Reading Groups
Anonymous wrote:Is this still a thing for Second Grade? I assumed it was but my child hasn’t been put in one yet. Also, is there no more using DRA to determine reading level?
My kid hasn’t had a reading group since K, sadly. In 4th now.
Anonymous
10/03/2022 22:31
Subject: Reading Groups
Is this still a thing for Second Grade? I assumed it was but my child hasn’t been put in one yet. Also, is there no more using DRA to determine reading level?