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Anonymous wrote:OP, I hope you recognize that many of those who voice criticisms may also identify as Christians themselves.
If you are secure in your sense that no one can speak for you but you yourself, then I’m not sure what your concern is.
As to your last bit, historically and currently, Christianity has been used to justify some horrifyingly bigoted and oppressive things. Since those things are against the actual teachings of Christ, my personal stance is to call out those who seem to be mis-labeling themselves.

Speak for your own beliefs, please. Christians don’t always agree, have the same beliefs, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:You can speak for yourself but you can’t speak for the leaders of your church and you can’t erase what they say and do.you can’t erase that your money and support encourages and supports their actions.

This is a perfect example. Now: I am going to speak for all Muslims and say Muslims are pro beheading “infidels” and pro throwing gay men off buildings to their (undeserved and horrific) deaths.

Just stop speaking for people you don’t know, and assuming everyone is the worst caricature of their religion.

pp, you don’t even know what my religion is.

Tell me what my religion is and my beliefs are, please, because you are so comfortable and confident in speaking for me and telling me who and what I believe and support.

As soon as you can admit the leaders of your religion, no matter what it is, are using it for political gain, and do horrific things to people like Muslims do to gay people and women in the name of the religion we will all be better off. Unless you are in a cult, you have the right to speak against the leaders of your church when they do horrible things … if you don’t you are helping your religion become a cult.

So, ALL religions are used by their leaders for political gain?

And ALL religions do horrific things to people?

ALL religions hurt women and children and gay people in the name of religion?

And religious people who don’t admit that are cult members?

Are you kidding?

I never said all.

If the shoe fits, if not your panties would’ve be in a bunch.

“As soon as you can admit the leaders of your religion, no matter what it is, are using it for political gain, and do horrific things to people like Muslims do to gay people and women in the name of the religion we will all be better off.”

This sounds like you are speaking for all people in all religions. It is a bigoted and awful statement that speaks to every person and every religion.


Unless you are in a cult, you have the right to speak against the leaders of your church when they do horrible things … if you don’t you are helping your religion become a cult.


If a religious leader does terrible things, they are or should be arrested and/or relieved of their duties, posts, appointments, etc. Yes, I am happy to add my voice should that happen. But don’t call all religious people “cult members” because you don’t like ALL religion. You are a bigoted and an anti-religious poster who should not be allowed to leave such bigoted and awful comments about religious people and religion.

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Anonymous wrote:You can speak for yourself but you can’t speak for the leaders of your church and you can’t erase what they say and do.you can’t erase that your money and support encourages and supports their actions.

This is a perfect example. Now: I am going to speak for all Muslims and say Muslims are pro beheading “infidels” and pro throwing gay men off buildings to their (undeserved and horrific) deaths.

Just stop speaking for people you don’t know, and assuming everyone is the worst caricature of their religion.

pp, you don’t even know what my religion is.

Tell me what my religion is and my beliefs are, please, because you are so comfortable and confident in speaking for me and telling me who and what I believe and support.

As soon as you can admit the leaders of your religion, no matter what it is, are using it for political gain, and do horrific things to people like Muslims do to gay people and women in the name of the religion we will all be better off. Unless you are in a cult, you have the right to speak against the leaders of your church when they do horrible things … if you don’t you are helping your religion become a cult.

So, ALL religions are used by their leaders for political gain?

And ALL religions do horrific things to people?

ALL religions hurt women and children and gay people in the name of religion?

And religious people who don’t admit that are cult members?

Are you kidding?

I never said all.

If the shoe fits, if not your panties would’ve be in a bunch.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I hope you recognize that many of those who voice criticisms may also identify as Christians themselves.
If you are secure in your sense that no one can speak for you but you yourself, then I’m not sure what your concern is.
As to your last bit, historically and currently, Christianity has been used to justify some horrifyingly bigoted and oppressive things. Since those things are against the actual teachings of Christ, my personal stance is to call out those who seem to be mis-labeling themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can speak for yourself but you can’t speak for the leaders of your church and you can’t erase what they say and do.you can’t erase that your money and support encourages and supports their actions.

This is a perfect example. Now: I am going to speak for all Muslims and say Muslims are pro beheading “infidels” and pro throwing gay men off buildings to their (undeserved and horrific) deaths.

Just stop speaking for people you don’t know, and assuming everyone is the worst caricature of their religion.

pp, you don’t even know what my religion is.

Tell me what my religion is and my beliefs are, please, because you are so comfortable and confident in speaking for me and telling me who and what I believe and support.

As soon as you can admit the leaders of your religion, no matter what it is, are using it for political gain, and do horrific things to people like Muslims do to gay people and women in the name of the religion we will all be better off. Unless you are in a cult, you have the right to speak against the leaders of your church when they do horrible things … if you don’t you are helping your religion become a cult.

So, ALL religions are used by their leaders for political gain?

And ALL religions do horrific things to people?

ALL religions hurt women and children and gay people in the name of religion?

And religious people who don’t admit that are cult members?

Are you kidding?

Anonymous wrote:There's very little clarity in OP's post, except only that she wants to restrict the opinions and expressions of others.

OKAY.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can speak for yourself but you can’t speak for the leaders of your church and you can’t erase what they say and do.you can’t erase that your money and support encourages and supports their actions.

This is a perfect example. Now: I am going to speak for all Muslims and say Muslims are pro beheading “infidels” and pro throwing gay men off buildings to their (undeserved and horrific) deaths.

Just stop speaking for people you don’t know, and assuming everyone is the worst caricature of their religion.

pp, you don’t even know what my religion is.

Tell me what my religion is and my beliefs are, please, because you are so comfortable and confident in speaking for me and telling me who and what I believe and support.

As soon as you can admit the leaders of your religion, no matter what it is, are using it for political gain, and do horrific things to people like Muslims do to gay people and women in the name of the religion we will all be better off. Unless you are in a cult, you have the right to speak against the leaders of your church when they do horrible things … if you don’t you are helping your religion become a cult.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can speak for yourself but you can’t speak for the leaders of your church and you can’t erase what they say and do.you can’t erase that your money and support encourages and supports their actions.

This is a perfect example. Now: I am going to speak for all Muslims and say Muslims are pro beheading “infidels” and pro throwing gay men off buildings to their (undeserved and horrific) deaths.

Just stop speaking for people you don’t know, and assuming everyone is the worst caricature of their religion.

pp, you don’t even know what my religion is.

Tell me what my religion is and my beliefs are, please, because you are so comfortable and confident in speaking for me and telling me who and what I believe and support.

Anonymous wrote:You can speak for yourself but you can’t speak for the leaders of your church and you can’t erase what they say and do.you can’t erase that your money and support encourages and supports their actions.