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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.

As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?

This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.

Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.

I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.

But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.

Because I gave up on that since the builder says no one from their team is allowed to approve the buyer or even the seller to be there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.

As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?

This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.

Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.

I would push back, hard. It doesn't make sense to allow an independent inspector to identify issues, but then disallow that inspector from confirming rectification of the issues. If the builders still won't budge, then it's your judgment call about how much you want the house and how much you trust the builders.

But, to reiterate, I worry that you're not communicating effectively here. The draft message you posted did not track the point you're making.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.

As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?

This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.

Op here. We requested this and they are refusing. They are only offering a written report.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah any builder who says you can’t go to the predrywall inspection is not to be trusted. Period. That’s basically the last time you’ll get to see all the exposures of the skeleton of the house. Builders usually WANT you to be there and even recommend you bringing a third party inspector. The fact that they don’t even want you there is a huge red flag. Find anyway possible to get out of it. Otherwise, you’ll regret it in a few years when the warranty runs out and you’ll have a ton of major issues.

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the people who responded in the last thread, making suggestions about insisting on pre-drywall inspection. You seem extremely distressed, OP, and between the last thread and this one I worry that you're not effectively communicating with the builders—coming across as excessively anxious and not clearly conveying what you want and why. I urge you to take a step back, collect your thoughts, and be as specific as possible with the builders. If you're not able to sort out your thoughts and communicate effectively, use your network of trusted friends to help you—don't rely on anonymous strangers on the internet, no matter how helpful we're trying to be.

As for the draft note you posted, it doesn't really make sense. Why do other homes matter?

This should be simple. The builders have committed to a pre-drywall inspection for code violations. The whole point of that inspection is to identify and correct any violations. If there are violations, obviously the builder should provide verifiable proof—either another pre-drywall walkthrough or photos—that the violations were corrected. Just insist on that. You're not asking for a favor here, just for the builder to follow through on their commitment. It would defeat the whole point of the inspection if you didn't get verifiable proof of fixes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to get out of this. There is zero reason you cannot inspect it. There is zero reason it should have code violations. You can call the inspector and see if they will talk to you. Or, look online. I would bail if they don't allow pictures or visits.

We are allowed to take photos. We have been allowed to visit, but I want to mention we want to visit again after the inspection and before the drywall goes up. If they do have repairs, we want to have access to see what changes have been made.

Then, you visit again. I'd bring in someone else or take really detailed pictures and show them to a home inspector. They should not be failing inspections with multiple violations. You need to ask them if you can visit again.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to get out of this. There is zero reason you cannot inspect it. There is zero reason it should have code violations. You can call the inspector and see if they will talk to you. Or, look online. I would bail if they don't allow pictures or visits.

We are allowed to take photos. We have been allowed to visit, but I want to mention we want to visit again after the inspection and before the drywall goes up. If they do have repairs, we want to have access to see what changes have been made.

Anonymous wrote:You need to get out of this. There is zero reason you cannot inspect it. There is zero reason it should have code violations. You can call the inspector and see if they will talk to you. Or, look online. I would bail if they don't allow pictures or visits.