Anonymous wrote:So some Twitter post makes you concerned about Germany?

OP is showing her ugly head...ignorance and paranoia.

Anonymous wrote:Issues with far right in various European countries and specifically in Germany are well known and well discussed, even in “leftist” media outlet. Areas in the former East Germany have had a problem with neo-nazi groups and anti immigration groups for a long time, if you just bother reading.

Some of the posters above just being ridiculous claims, like the one that in early 2000s it was common in Germany for businesses to have signs that Turks and Americans were not allowed.

These signs were common in Bavaria in the early 2000s.

Anonymous wrote:Same with France and Japan. All insular cultures with homogeneous demographics treat outsiders terribly. The tourist spots are fine, but the heartlands are all backwards in this regard. People believe it takes special kind of evil to behave like the Nazis or the Japanese during WWII. It does not.

I'm 15:16 whose mother was told to go back where she came from. We're French. Funnily enough, when we returned from multiple years abroad in various countries, and she had apparently acquired a "foreign air", she was told the same thing by our xenophobic Parisian neighbor!

Racism is everywhere. Sometimes you feel rather defeated about it.

All cultures are prone to tribalism and "othering" of outsiders. Always have been and probably always will be. Nothing to see here.

Same with France and Japan. All insular cultures with homogeneous demographics treat outsiders terribly. The tourist spots are fine, but the heartlands are all backwards in this regard. People believe it takes special kind of evil to behave like the Nazis or the Japanese during WWII. It does not.

Anonymous wrote:Would be interested in hearing from other POCs living in Germany. This wouldn’t happen in the US in an urban’ish area, imho.

I find this more concerning.

So some Twitter post makes you concerned about Germany?

Anonymous wrote:Would be interested in hearing from other POCs living in Germany. This wouldn’t happen in the US in an urban’ish area, imho.

This is actually quite funny, especially coming from an obviously ignorant American.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has been going on for decades but doesnt get much airtime bc thd left is busy canonizing Europe as socialist saints. Germany's education discrimination was so bad 15 years ago that OECD threatened to censure them unless they stopped sending only ethnic Germans on to higher ed. Ten years ago, they would only allow a certain number of blacks, turks, russians, or all-purpose (race-irrelevant) Americans into most clubs and once they hit the quota, the rest were turned away due to "too many non-Germans." This is an improvement over 20 years ago, when it was common for businesses to have signs saying turks and americans were not allowed.

Only recently has Germany decided it might be wrong to call people "neger" https://m.dw.com/en/always-derogatory-germany-battles-over-the-n-word/a-52327824

This means that they have renamed the popular treat of chocolate covered marshmallow from negerkuss to the more logical and less offensive "schokokuss". https://de.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Negerkuss

Things are getting better but any nation that has its national identity linked to an ethnic identity is going to have these issues. China, etc are no better. People need to get out more.

Has the right been raising alarm bells, then? I hear they go to countries like Hungary where the extreme right are in power for a lot speaking engagements.

Oh yeah, thats the ticket. Raise alarm bells about all of our allies. That has worked so well.

ok, so then why bring up the left and their views of Europe?

Issues with far right in various European countries and specifically in Germany are well known and well discussed, even in “leftist” media outlet. Areas in the former East Germany have had a problem with neo-nazi groups and anti immigration groups for a long time, if you just bother reading.

Some of the posters above just being ridiculous claims, like the one that in early 2000s it was common in Germany for businesses to have signs that Turks and Americans were not allowed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has been going on for decades but doesnt get much airtime bc thd left is busy canonizing Europe as socialist saints. Germany's education discrimination was so bad 15 years ago that OECD threatened to censure them unless they stopped sending only ethnic Germans on to higher ed. Ten years ago, they would only allow a certain number of blacks, turks, russians, or all-purpose (race-irrelevant) Americans into most clubs and once they hit the quota, the rest were turned away due to "too many non-Germans." This is an improvement over 20 years ago, when it was common for businesses to have signs saying turks and americans were not allowed.

Only recently has Germany decided it might be wrong to call people "neger" https://m.dw.com/en/always-derogatory-germany-battles-over-the-n-word/a-52327824

This means that they have renamed the popular treat of chocolate covered marshmallow from negerkuss to the more logical and less offensive "schokokuss". https://de.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Negerkuss

Things are getting better but any nation that has its national identity linked to an ethnic identity is going to have these issues. China, etc are no better. People need to get out more.

Has the right been raising alarm bells, then? I hear they go to countries like Hungary where the extreme right are in power for a lot speaking engagements.

Oh yeah, thats the ticket. Raise alarm bells about all of our allies. That has worked so well.

Anonymous wrote:This has been going on for decades but doesnt get much airtime bc thd left is busy canonizing Europe as socialist saints. Germany's education discrimination was so bad 15 years ago that OECD threatened to censure them unless they stopped sending only ethnic Germans on to higher ed. Ten years ago, they would only allow a certain number of blacks, turks, russians, or all-purpose (race-irrelevant) Americans into most clubs and once they hit the quota, the rest were turned away due to "too many non-Germans." This is an improvement over 20 years ago, when it was common for businesses to have signs saying turks and americans were not allowed.

Only recently has Germany decided it might be wrong to call people "neger" https://m.dw.com/en/always-derogatory-germany-battles-over-the-n-word/a-52327824

This means that they have renamed the popular treat of chocolate covered marshmallow from negerkuss to the more logical and less offensive "schokokuss". https://de.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Negerkuss

Things are getting better but any nation that has its national identity linked to an ethnic identity is going to have these issues. China, etc are no better. People need to get out more.

Has the right been raising alarm bells, then? I hear they go to countries like Hungary where the extreme right are in power for a lot speaking engagements.

This has been going on for decades but doesnt get much airtime bc thd left is busy canonizing Europe as socialist saints. Germany's education discrimination was so bad 15 years ago that OECD threatened to censure them unless they stopped sending only ethnic Germans on to higher ed. Ten years ago, they would only allow a certain number of blacks, turks, russians, or all-purpose (race-irrelevant) Americans into most clubs and once they hit the quota, the rest were turned away due to "too many non-Germans." This is an improvement over 20 years ago, when it was common for businesses to have signs saying turks and americans were not allowed.

Only recently has Germany decided it might be wrong to call people "neger" https://m.dw.com/en/always-derogatory-germany-battles-over-the-n-word/a-52327824

This means that they have renamed the popular treat of chocolate covered marshmallow from negerkuss to the more logical and less offensive "schokokuss". https://de.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Negerkuss

Things are getting better but any nation that has its national identity linked to an ethnic identity is going to have these issues. China, etc are no better. People need to get out more.

I well remember living in Dusseldorf (then West Germany) as a young child in the 80s and people telling my White European
- not German - mother that she was not welcome here. I remember we left a restaurant once because every one else was being served before us.

Maybe it was scars from WWII, or just garden-variety xenophobia. But there is was. Not our favorite country to live in for our family.

Would be interested in hearing from other POCs living in Germany. This wouldn’t happen in the US in an urban’ish area, imho.