15:39 here: reminded that Dayton is Catholic by above poster. Thanks!

Anonymous wrote:There are only 2 Catholic colleges with Division 1 football: Notre Dame and Boston College.

There are two categories if Division 1 football now--FBS and FCS.
There are other Catholic colleges in FCS.

Starting a bit smaller (5000) and going a bit larger (20,000):

Duke
Lehigh
Miami (Ohio)
Northwestern
Syracuse
University of Dayton
University of Delaware
University of Pittsburgh
Vanderbilt (10 hours)
Wake Forest

Anonymous wrote:Op here: my dd thinks Loyola Md is too small but Penn State is too big so she is looking at an in between number and 10k comes to mind. But maybe 7 or 12 is right too.

Elon University is close to 7,000.

Youngstown State may be a match

Anonymous wrote:Dayton?

Dayton is Catholic.

There are only 2 Catholic colleges with Division 1 football: Notre Dame and Boston College.

Anonymous wrote:UVM? 11k students, and a little further though.

No football and not much spirit.

To hit all those criteria, you're looking at either Catholic (see the Dayton suggestion, above) or super-selective. Push to 20K (half the size of Penn State), and a number of options open up.

UVM? 11k students, and a little further though.

Op here: my dd thinks Loyola Md is too small but Penn State is too big so she is looking at an in between number and 10k comes to mind. But maybe 7 or 12 is right too.

Anonymous wrote:Looking for a school with about 10 k student body; football and basketball teams; strong spirit; no more than 60k tuition; non-church affiliated; preferably within 8 hours of DMV. We are stuck. Thanks.

If you find one like that, please let me know. It may not exist. My kid likes mid-sized schools, but the ones we've considered are under 10,000 undergrads (W&M has around 6,500, I believe, and yes I know it supposedly lacks school spirit).

Curious about why you're stuck on 10k? (As you've found that's not a common size.) I personally like a smaller school, but I feel like once the school is bigger than 5 or 10k, the precise size is less relevant. I know that big schools have ways to make themselves feel smaller and more manageable (like honors colleges, etc.).

Dayton?

Looking for a school with about 10 k student body; football and basketball teams; strong spirit; no more than 60k tuition; non-church affiliated; preferably within 8 hours of DMV. We are stuck. Thanks.