Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think victims and their families should be making criminal justice policy. there's a reason those cases are titled "the people vs."... criminal law is about society handling things. The victims can bring civil cases. I don't think DC is doing everything right on crime at all, but will incarcerating people until or while they are elderly make a difference?

Hard to create more innocent victims when you're in prison.

Not true. People including staff are assaulted daily in prisons.

At least they won't shoot a mom in the head on the sidewalk anymore.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for the victims, but in almost all cases, super-long sentences are pointless.

It certainly seems like the victim’s family members don’t share that view, and I would say their perspective matters more than yours.

Only if you think the justice system is about revenge and not safety.

No one is being rehabilitated. Progressives are just refusing to prosecute crimes so that they can say less POC were imprisoned. Teens know there are no punishments so they get bored and decide to steal cars, assault people, and suffer no consequences. I'm not sure where all this talk of rehabilitation is coming from as even the DC mayor acknowledged most of the violent crime is coming from repeat offenders let loose in the streets.

We are so fked.

This social justice awakening of the last few years is resulting in an increasingly large number of people who simply don’t think incarceration is the answer. Their solution is lower sentences, restorative justice, no bail, no loss of license for any reason, eliminating certain crimes as being considered crimes, liberal das who are less likely to seek tough sentences and the like. As someone living in the city and a direct beneficiary of this permissive attitude toward crime I resent the probably, suburban-led “woke” warriors who are behind this effort. It’s annoying and it’s frustrating and history shows that a strong deterrence, ie criminals knowing they can’t get away with everything, to prevent crime is a better emphasis. But here we go on and motherfkers have to learn the hard way I guess and us folks living close to crime get to see it rise.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for the victims, but in almost all cases, super-long sentences are pointless.

????????

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf

No other developed country in the world keeps people in prison for so long. Punish them. Just be rational about the punishment.

Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for the victims, but in almost all cases, super-long sentences are pointless.

????????

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think victims and their families should be making criminal justice policy. there's a reason those cases are titled "the people vs."... criminal law is about society handling things. The victims can bring civil cases. I don't think DC is doing everything right on crime at all, but will incarcerating people until or while they are elderly make a difference?

Hard to create more innocent victims when you're in prison.

Not true. People including staff are assaulted daily in prisons.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for the victims, but in almost all cases, super-long sentences are pointless.

It certainly seems like the victim’s family members don’t share that view, and I would say their perspective matters more than yours.

Only if you think the justice system is about revenge and not safety.

Nothing Racine and Allen have been doing results in rehabilitation. Predatory and violent teens do not belong in genPop in adult prison, but they certainly shouldn't be walking around with the rest of us. The current approach to youth crime has taught the criminals that nothing whatsoever will happen to them.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think victims and their families should be making criminal justice policy. there's a reason those cases are titled "the people vs."... criminal law is about society handling things. The victims can bring civil cases. I don't think DC is doing everything right on crime at all, but will incarcerating people until or while they are elderly make a difference?

Hard to create more innocent victims when you're in prison.

This is why I believe in the death penalty.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for the victims, but in almost all cases, super-long sentences are pointless.

It certainly seems like the victim’s family members don’t share that view, and I would say their perspective matters more than yours.

Not all victims see things the same way. It is a very personal thing. Yes, some are looking purely for punishment. Others desire accountability and rehabilitation that will (hopefully) prevent future victims. These are two very different objectives.

I don't think victims and their families should be making criminal justice policy. there's a reason those cases are titled "the people vs."... criminal law is about society handling things. The victims can bring civil cases. I don't think DC is doing everything right on crime at all, but will incarcerating people until or while they are elderly make a difference?

Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for the victims, but in almost all cases, super-long sentences are pointless.

It certainly seems like the victim’s family members don’t share that view, and I would say their perspective matters more than yours.

I feel badly for the victims, but in almost all cases, super-long sentences are pointless.

"After decades helping victims’ families, the system left her disillusioned. Longtime victims’ advocate Marcey Rinker grew increasingly frustrated with how the justice system was changing, as homicides continued to mount"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/18/longtime-victims-advocate-retires-crime/