For Maryland - then why is the state requesting a significant increase in funding via the Kirwan Commission report? Like increase in billions…. This is literally because US News reporters don’t make enough, live in Moco and have created a self licking ice cream cone report to make themselves feel good. Sorry for pushing a comical conspiracy but this report is a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:

As always they put a heavy focus on metrics that high-SES, majority white schools would inherently excel at. So of course, we see the East Coast on top as usual.

Maryland and Virginia are a LOT less “majority white” than most states.

NP.. it's really about SES/income.

FCPS has less FARMs students than MCPS.

Generally, the rankings are a proxy to income and education level of the populace.

Schools in the W cluster in MCPS will rank highest; schools in the eastern county that have a high FARMs rate will rank very low.

CA, NY have a high rate of FARMS students, but there are pockets of really high income, and those schools do really well (I'm originally from CA).

I think it's mostly about the education level of the parents. Kids that come from educated families will generally become educated themselves.

Immigrants from Asia and Africa are often college graduates, but many of them cannot find lucrative jobs. Language barriers, lack of credentialing, and/or lack of a professional network are major hurdles. However, their kids often turn out to be good students despite that lack of income. Goes back to the education of their parents.

Income is important too, but I think education matters more. It's just easier to villainize high SES people.

Anonymous wrote:Most people know these rankings aren’t about teacher quality, but instead the academic preparedness and performance of the peer groups. And it’s ridiculous to pretend that isn’t what matters the most. If you can avoid it you don’t want your kids at schools where the focus is primarily on teaching kids English and getting high school kids up to the level of 5th graders.

+1. I'm a teacher and a parent. Youngkin's report is misleading BS, one small step from outright lies. However, the idea that Nova schools are "world class," especially FCPS, is also BS.

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As always they put a heavy focus on metrics that high-SES, majority white schools would inherently excel at. So of course, we see the East Coast on top as usual.

Maryland and Virginia are a LOT less “majority white” than most states.

NP.. it's really about SES/income.

FCPS has less FARMs students than MCPS.

Generally, the rankings are a proxy to income and education level of the populace.

Schools in the W cluster in MCPS will rank highest; schools in the eastern county that have a high FARMs rate will rank very low.

CA, NY have a high rate of FARMS students, but there are pockets of really high income, and those schools do really well (I'm originally from CA).

As always they put a heavy focus on metrics that high-SES, majority white schools would inherently excel at. So of course, we see the East Coast on top as usual.

Maryland and Virginia are a LOT less “majority white” than most states.

Not surprising. Follow the $$

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin and all the histrionic ninnies whining about MCPS and Nova schools can just suck it. Long and hard.

https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-maryland-2022-best-worst-school-systems-districts-nationwide-united-states-new-wallethub-study-survey-massachusetts-new-mexico-dmv-dc-washington-ranking-top-teacher-dropout-rates-standardized-test-scores

Can we recall that moron now?

By WalletHub? Seriously dude??

Read the methodology for yourself. https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335

Impressive! But most of us already knew this and Youngkin is also a well known buffoon.

Anonymous wrote:Most people know these rankings aren’t about teacher quality, but instead the academic preparedness and performance of the peer groups. And it’s ridiculous to pretend that isn’t what matters the most. If you can avoid it you don’t want your kids at schools where the focus is primarily on teaching kids English and getting high school kids up to the level of 5th graders.

What a strange takeaway. Quite the fantasy you have there, pp. That isn't what is happening in VA schools. Agree the focus on test scores may be disproportionate but if what you were saying were true, Virginia students wouldn't score as high on standardized tests as they do. But if you look at the methodology, you'll see that it's more than just test scores.

Most people know these rankings aren’t about teacher quality, but instead the academic preparedness and performance of the peer groups. And it’s ridiculous to pretend that isn’t what matters the most. If you can avoid it you don’t want your kids at schools where the focus is primarily on teaching kids English and getting high school kids up to the level of 5th graders.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin and all the histrionic ninnies whining about MCPS and Nova schools can just suck it. Long and hard.

https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-maryland-2022-best-worst-school-systems-districts-nationwide-united-states-new-wallethub-study-survey-massachusetts-new-mexico-dmv-dc-washington-ranking-top-teacher-dropout-rates-standardized-test-scores

Can we recall that moron now?

By WalletHub? Seriously dude??

Read the methodology for yourself. https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335

not impressed

Sorry it doesn't fit your narrative. This is just the latest in a series of studies and reports that consistently rank Virginia schools among the best in the nation. The notion that Virginia schools are failing is a myth -- although the policy objectives of people who created the myths are certain to tank Virginia school quality (i.e., more charter schools, block funding, etc -- all the stuff that made Kansas schools turn to shit). Irony.

I'm not a fan of Youngkin but this report, along with all the other useless rankings from US News and such, is practically meaningless. They take some pretty far-fetched, self-reported survey data into account with a completely arbitrary weighting. As always they put a heavy focus on metrics that high-SES, majority white schools would inherently excel at. So of course, we see the East Coast on top as usual.

I take issue with this because it takes away from the real efforts of teachers and school staff who serve challenging districts. Are teachers and schools in last place states terrible? No, they just aren't lucky to serve a high-SES population.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin and all the histrionic ninnies whining about MCPS and Nova schools can just suck it. Long and hard.

https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-maryland-2022-best-worst-school-systems-districts-nationwide-united-states-new-wallethub-study-survey-massachusetts-new-mexico-dmv-dc-washington-ranking-top-teacher-dropout-rates-standardized-test-scores

Can we recall that moron now?

By WalletHub? Seriously dude??

Read the methodology for yourself. https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335

not impressed

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin and all the histrionic ninnies whining about MCPS and Nova schools can just suck it. Long and hard.

https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-maryland-2022-best-worst-school-systems-districts-nationwide-united-states-new-wallethub-study-survey-massachusetts-new-mexico-dmv-dc-washington-ranking-top-teacher-dropout-rates-standardized-test-scores

Can we recall that moron now?

By WalletHub? Seriously dude??

Read the methodology for yourself. https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin and all the histrionic ninnies whining about MCPS and Nova schools can just suck it. Long and hard.

https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-maryland-2022-best-worst-school-systems-districts-nationwide-united-states-new-wallethub-study-survey-massachusetts-new-mexico-dmv-dc-washington-ranking-top-teacher-dropout-rates-standardized-test-scores

Can we recall that moron now?

By WalletHub? Seriously dude??

Youngkin and all the histrionic ninnies whining about MCPS and Nova schools can just suck it. Long and hard.

https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-maryland-2022-best-worst-school-systems-districts-nationwide-united-states-new-wallethub-study-survey-massachusetts-new-mexico-dmv-dc-washington-ranking-top-teacher-dropout-rates-standardized-test-scores

Can we recall that moron now?