By state is sort of useless. I am in a better school in a lower ranked state than we were the previous year in a higher ranked state.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Functionally, most of DC us a large suburb. There is no difference between palisades or CCDC or any other upper NW neighborhood and the inner suburbs of any city.

Many, if not most, U.S. cities contain significant areas of medium or lower density residential areas that are functionally like suburbs. But on top of that, they have the actual, politically distinct suburbs and the exurbs also within the state. Whereas DC only has the actual city limits. Big difference, particularly since it means we have just a single, urban school district (plus charters), not a lot of smaller school districts like most states. Apples and oranges.

+1

For instance look at Massachusetts. If you just compared Boston to DC, that would be more meaningful. If you want to compare DC to Massachusetts you should compare north VA/DC/Montgomery and PG Counties. The rich suburbs boost the educational rankings.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Not OP but taking that into consideration I think #30 is pretty good.

31 Washington
32 Arkansas
33 Kansas
34 Ohio
35 Missouri
36 Georgia
37 Idaho
38 Michigan
39 Nevada
40 California
41 Hawaii
42 Alabama
43 Mississippi
44 Oregon
45 Oklahoma
46 South Carolina
47 West Virginia
48 Arizona
49 Louisiana
50 Alaska
51 New Mexico

30 is in the middle, not great but not bad. Do we trust "Wallethub" though?

Article says they used 32 key metrics but do not list what they are all and what % does it contribute to the score/ranking. If high school graduation is one of them, then DC’s number is really artificially inflated because we all know the kids graduate no matter if they are reading at 3rd grade level or have 100 days of truancy.

Also the few criteria of the 32 they do list, DC is in the lowest group with math and reading and % threatened or injured kids in high school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Functionally, most of DC us a large suburb. There is no difference between palisades or CCDC or any other upper NW neighborhood and the inner suburbs of any city.

Many, if not most, U.S. cities contain significant areas of medium or lower density residential areas that are functionally like suburbs. But on top of that, they have the actual, politically distinct suburbs and the exurbs also within the state. Whereas DC only has the actual city limits. Big difference, particularly since it means we have just a single, urban school district (plus charters), not a lot of smaller school districts like most states. Apples and oranges.

Anonymous wrote:OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Functionally, most of DC us a large suburb. There is no difference between palisades or CCDC or any other upper NW neighborhood and the inner suburbs of any city.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Not OP but taking that into consideration I think #30 is pretty good.

31 Washington
32 Arkansas
33 Kansas
34 Ohio
35 Missouri
36 Georgia
37 Idaho
38 Michigan
39 Nevada
40 California
41 Hawaii
42 Alabama
43 Mississippi
44 Oregon
45 Oklahoma
46 South Carolina
47 West Virginia
48 Arizona
49 Louisiana
50 Alaska
51 New Mexico

Agree. DC is doing very well, considering.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Not OP but taking that into consideration I think #30 is pretty good.

31 Washington
32 Arkansas
33 Kansas
34 Ohio
35 Missouri
36 Georgia
37 Idaho
38 Michigan
39 Nevada
40 California
41 Hawaii
42 Alabama
43 Mississippi
44 Oregon
45 Oklahoma
46 South Carolina
47 West Virginia
48 Arizona
49 Louisiana
50 Alaska
51 New Mexico

Well, not exactly. Most of the states coming after DC are largely rural and lacking in big cities.

I’d say DC comes in next to last among states with major cities.

??? Since when are California, Ohio, and Michigan lacking in big cities? Come on PP.

Phoenix Arizona is very big city.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Not OP but taking that into consideration I think #30 is pretty good.

31 Washington
32 Arkansas
33 Kansas
34 Ohio
35 Missouri
36 Georgia
37 Idaho
38 Michigan
39 Nevada
40 California
41 Hawaii
42 Alabama
43 Mississippi
44 Oregon
45 Oklahoma
46 South Carolina
47 West Virginia
48 Arizona
49 Louisiana
50 Alaska
51 New Mexico

Well, not exactly. Most of the states coming after DC are largely rural and lacking in big cities.

I’d say DC comes in next to last among states with major cities.

??? Since when are California, Ohio, and Michigan lacking in big cities? Come on PP.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Not OP but taking that into consideration I think #30 is pretty good.

31 Washington
32 Arkansas
33 Kansas
34 Ohio
35 Missouri
36 Georgia
37 Idaho
38 Michigan
39 Nevada
40 California
41 Hawaii
42 Alabama
43 Mississippi
44 Oregon
45 Oklahoma
46 South Carolina
47 West Virginia
48 Arizona
49 Louisiana
50 Alaska
51 New Mexico

Well, not exactly. Most of the states coming after DC are largely rural and lacking in big cities.

I’d say DC comes in next to last among states with major cities.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Not OP but taking that into consideration I think #30 is pretty good.

31 Washington
32 Arkansas
33 Kansas
34 Ohio
35 Missouri
36 Georgia
37 Idaho
38 Michigan
39 Nevada
40 California
41 Hawaii
42 Alabama
43 Mississippi
44 Oregon
45 Oklahoma
46 South Carolina
47 West Virginia
48 Arizona
49 Louisiana
50 Alaska
51 New Mexico

30 is in the middle, not great but not bad. Do we trust "Wallethub" though?

OP here. Good perspective.

Anonymous wrote:OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Not OP but taking that into consideration I think #30 is pretty good.

31 Washington
32 Arkansas
33 Kansas
34 Ohio
35 Missouri
36 Georgia
37 Idaho
38 Michigan
39 Nevada
40 California
41 Hawaii
42 Alabama
43 Mississippi
44 Oregon
45 Oklahoma
46 South Carolina
47 West Virginia
48 Arizona
49 Louisiana
50 Alaska
51 New Mexico

OP, DC is a city. It is a single urban area with no suburb, being compared to full states.

If you compare DC to other major cities, it is different.

Not saying DC is doing great by all of its students (some yes, for sure), but the chart you are citing is useless.

Here's the ranking of the top 30 if anyone's interested.

1. Massachusetts
2. Connecticut
3. New Jersey
4. Virginia
5. Maryland
6. Delaware
7. New Hampshire
8. North Dakota
9. Nebraska
10. Wisconsin
11. Vermont
12. Maine
13. Utah
14. Florida
15. Minnesota
16. Rhode Island
17. New York
18. Pennsylvania
19. Iowa
20. Wyoming
21. Kentucky
22. Indiana
23. Illinois
24. Colorado
25. Montana
26. South Dakota
27. Texas
28. Tennessee
29. North Carolina
30. District of Columbia

Not sure how accurate or reliable this is, but sharing anyway.
DC's overall rank is 30. Unfortunately, we're leading in the dropout rate and have some of the lowest Math test scores.

https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335